从M和G的私密电话录音内容来谈MJ的“花花公子形象”

MJ小丝

从Glenda录音中来看

M在两性关系当中是个理想主义者，他对JOE偏爱私生女这件事很介意，他说“绝不会像哥哥以及Joe一样”

哥哥们把应招女郎推进他的房间，他手捧圣经坐在墙角哭泣，这是一种反抗

他的初恋情人塔图姆一直想跟他发展一段有sex的关系，他断然拒绝

跟S姑娘在一起时也时常处于矛盾之中，我认为是S有婚约的事实让他放弃了耶和华信念，想要占有自己心爱的人

所以当S以义无反顾的爱情以及处子之身奉献给他的时候，他表明心迹:完全忠诚于她

他跟S的情欲是建立在互相相爱，确定对方的基础上，绝不是随随便便的一段关系

在Glenda录音中对S部分的描述，更是可以看到MJ是个纯情，细心，体贴，宽容，浪漫的情人，时时刻刻为对方着想，又充满理想主义色彩，以纯爱回报对方

加上他之前是耶和华信徒，以及跟塔图姆，波姬小丝的柏拉图关系，我不相信他早期有哪些不三不四的男女关系（不过第二次离婚后有没有情人另当别论）

所以我认为，他的“花花公子”形象，是“多情却不滥情”

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附：Glenda电话录音中的节录


MJ对忠诚的态度

G:   Did anything happen with you and her?
M:    Melissa? Heck no………we just talked and she thought it…something more than just friends.. I told you ….. I would never betray S like that… It’s ….worth it to me…… I am completely….. honest with her and she knows that I have phone friends sometime but…all there is to it…….just friends.

G：你跟她之间发生了什么吗？
M：Melissa?没有，我们只是聊天然后她想要发生一些超越朋友关系的事。我告诉你，这种事上我永远不会背叛S，这对我来说是值得的，我完完全全忠实于她，她知道我有电话朋友某些时候，不过所有这些，都不会超出朋友的范围


MJ对S姑娘的爱

M：I was sad. I don’t like to see….especially the one I love crying.
M：我很难过，我不喜欢看到，尤其是我爱的人哭泣

M：I know she said it was tears from happiness…. I saw her pain. I told you yesterday.. I would rather let her spread her wings, become who she is suppose to be….. hold her back….. sorrow.
M:我明白她说的，这些泪水都是在幸福中流出的，我能看见她的伤。我昨天告诉你，我会让她展开她的双翼，去成为她想要成为的人，我会在背后支持她，安抚她的悲伤

M：(inaudible) because I have a bond with her ……… That is rare for me! . I (inaudible) normally let my guard down even if (inaudible) am close to you. (inaudible) don’t have to look over my shoulders (muffled) the time….she (inaudible) (inaudible) secure with who she is…she says “I just want to be with you ,no matter (inaudible)” She (inaudible) encourages me to get over all my insecurities… Its like this (muffled) …….that little bit of an opening I have (inside?) to let anyone in…..(inaudible) she snuck in here ………. …………(muffled) I end up doing senseless things because of it.
M:因为我跟她有一种默契，这对我来说是很稀有的。在我与你这样亲近的情况下我仍然无法卸下我的防备。我不需要时时感觉孤独了，她用她真实的自己拯救了我，她说“我只要跟你在一起，什么也不在乎”，她鼓励我放下所有的不安全感，这就好像我的心门开了一道隙缝，她悄悄地进来了，因为这个我不再空虚无聊

M： Its hard for me..(inaudible)..but with her its a lot easier to be myself. She excites me, she motivates me to create, I truly feel inspired ..she has some magic (inaudible).
M：这对我来说很难，但跟她在一起我会更容易去做我自己。她激发我，她刺激我去创作，我真的觉得充满灵感，她有魔力



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Liberian girl  词曲：michael Jackson

Liberian girl.. 利比里亚女孩
You came and you changed my world 你的到来改变了我的世界
A love so brand-new 带给我一场崭新的爱情
Liberian girl... 利比里亚女孩
You came and you changed me girl 你的到来改变了我，我的好姑娘
A feeling so true 这感受是如此真实

Liberian girl 利比里亚女孩
You know that you came 你知道你的到来
And you changed my world 改变了我的世界
Just like in the movie 就象生活在电影里
With two loves in a scene 屏幕上只有相爱的两个人
And she says..."do you love me" 她问：“你爱我么？”
And he says so endlessly... 他回答：“此情不渝……”
I love you, liberian girl“ 我爱你，利比里亚女孩

(Naku penda piya-naku taka piya-mpenziwe)

Liberian girl... 利比里亚女孩
More precious than any pearl 你比任何珠宝都更珍贵
Your love so complete 你的爱是如此完整
Liberian girl... 利比里亚女孩
You kiss me then, ooh, the world 当你吻我的时候，我拥有了整个世界
You do this to me 你给予了我全部

Liberian girl 利比里亚女孩
You know that you came 你知道你的到来
And you changed my world 改变了我的世界
Just like in the movie 就象生活在电影里
With two loves in a scene 屏幕上只有相爱的两个人
And she says..."do you love me" 她问：“你爱我么？”
And he says so endlessly... 他回答；“海枯石烂……”
I love you, liberian girl 我爱你，利比里亚女孩

(Naku penda piya-naku taka piya-mpenziwe)

Liberian girl... 利比里亚女孩
You know that you came 你知道你的到来
And you changed my world 改变了我的世界
I wait for the day 我在等待那一天
When you have to say "I do" 你对我说“我愿意”
And I'll smile and say it too 我也会笑着说同样的话
And forever we'll be true 我们会彼此忠诚直到永远
I love you, liberian girl, all the time 我爱你利比里亚女孩，直到永远
I love you liberian girl, all the time 我爱你利比里亚女孩，直到永远
I love you, i love you baby 我爱你，我爱你宝贝
I want you, i love baby 我需要你，我爱你宝贝
Ooh! I love you baby, I want you baby, ooh! 我爱你宝贝，我需要你宝贝，噢！……

碧空心云

S是谁啊？？

glyn

恕我无知，S姑娘是谁啊？

天使迈

弱弱的问一句，那个S姑娘是谁啊？

MJ小丝

回复以上

S是MJ在电话里对那个姑娘的称呼，是个代号

同样的，前面有个名字“Melissa”也是代号

没人知道她们确切是谁

stroller

MJ退出（或者说被逐出）耶和华见证会是在1987年，原因是他的艺术作品中有违反教规的内容。

看看当时的消息：
Michael Jackson Leaves Jehovah's Witnesses
David A. Reed
This article first appeared in the News Watch column of the Christian Research Journal, volume 10, number 1 (1987). For further information or to subscribe to the Christian Research Journal go to: http://www.equip.org

Jehovah’s Witnesses lost their best-known member this spring when Michael Jackson quit the sect. While Watchtower Society spokesmen indicated that his departure was voluntary, sources close to the superstar claimed that he was asked to leave. Neither side would discuss details with newsmen.
Michael’s rise to stardom earlier this decade had brought the Jehovah’s Witnesses much favorable publicity, with reports of the youth hero donning disguises to hide his identity as he went knocking door-to-door with Watchtower and Awake! Magazines. But Jackson came into public conflict with his religious mentors in 1984, when his suggestive dancing, dress, and grooming became an embarrassment to a sect that requires rank-and-file members to wear neckties and 1950s haircuts.
He was “reproved” at that time and made a public apology for his musical video Thriller, featuring occult imagery. After that, however, Michael continued to offend fellow religionists by attending birthday parties, by sleeping in a hyperbaric oxygen chamber to preserve his youth, and most recently, by showing a fascination with stage magic. A photo of him levitating under a magician’s wand appeared in the press shortly before announcement of this final rift.
According to Watchtower rules Jackson must now be shunned by Witness friends and family, including his mother and two of his sisters.
http://www.equip.org/articles/mi ... jehovah-s-witnesses

郭郭妹

我覺得MJ~不是那種會玩弄女孩子感情的男人~

MJ的愛情 感覺也非常純情可愛...

我一直以為  演藝圈的人  感情世界都很複雜...

不過   MJ   卻讓我覺得.他對每一段感情 都付出100%....

ZLQ819

S姑娘是什么时候认识的?

LYSKY

不要怀疑，不要过问。

childish

请问楼主，这通电话是什么时候的？

MJ小丝

回复 10# childish


    不是一通电话，是N通电话

基本上是说92年5月左右，不过时间跨度多长就没人知道了

MJ小丝

回复 8# ZLQ819


    认识MJ那时S是14岁，MJ受人所托照顾独生女儿，S的家人找了王室成员给S订了亲

但是S跟MJ相爱了，家人反对，S对MJ说：我爸爸是个开明的人，但很多事也不是他能决定的，我有很多事不能自主，但爱你这一点由我说了算

MJ有写过“专门为她的耳朵而写的歌”（不知道是哪些），有画过“专门为她的眼睛而画的画”

他告诉S：（与你在一起）这一刻我将永生铭记

他还跟S的爸爸交涉过，跟G抱怨过：为什么我的生活这么艰难

zzily

额。。。这事靠谱吗？能找到录音吗？

ZLQ819

回复  ZLQ819


    认识MJ那时S是14岁，MJ受人所托照顾独生女儿，S的家人找了王室成员给S订了亲

但 ...
MJ小丝 发表于 2010-5-1 15:01

    如果真的有这样一段故事,那是在和Lisa之前还是Debbie之后?

偵探小福

回复 14# ZLQ819


    在LISA之前