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Michael Jackson生前最后见过的歌迷Samantha de Gosson在MJ去世五周年之际,接受了《三联生活周刊》的独家采访。三联只刊载了部分内容,以下是完整访谈,大家可以参考下:
问:MJ去世五周年,什么依然让你难以释怀?你想对迈克尔说什么?
答:依然让我无法释怀的是,他已逝去,不会再回来。我困扰于记忆,困扰于我和其他几个歌迷最后试图去帮助他的努力。但我们最终被某些知道迈克尔告诉过我们什么以及我们将要做什么的人“挡住了去路”。唯一让我从中感到安慰的是,我们至少努力过。我会说,对不起迈克尔,为这个世界让你经受的一切磨难,从过去直到现在。你太美好,让这个世界都容不下你,但这个世界依然需要你像你还活着一样照亮前路。
What still haunts me is that he is gone and isn't coming back. I am haunted by memories and by the last attempt me and a few others had to try and help him. But we were ultimately "road-blocked" by several people who knew what Michael had told us, and what we were trying to do. The only comfort I find in this is that we at least tried. I would say I'm sorry Michael, for what the world put you through and still does this day. You may have been too good for this world but the world needed you for it to shine the way it used to with you in it.
问:你认为有些什么故事和真相是还不为人所知的?迈克尔的隐私不断被侵犯,他的名声不断在媒体和官司中被抹黑,你是否感到悲哀?
答:还没有公之于众的,或者至少还公开得不够的,是迈克尔带给这个世界的美好,无论是公开场合还是私下里。他改变和帮助了那么多生命,却不求回报。他是多么的孤独,只有很少几个人他可以称之为朋友并托付信任。这个孤独的人生却从未变得悲苦,哪怕有人出于嫉妒和贪婪,通过官司、审判、抹黑和指控来污蔑和摧毁他。这个灵魂要多么非凡,才能直面这样的不公,然后依然能够不顾伤害和谎言,继续去爱,继续去做好事。
What has not been made public, or at least not enough, is the good Michael put in this world, publicly and privately. How he changed and helped so many lives, asking for nothing in return. How lonely he was with so few people to call friends or even trust. A lonely life never turned bitter, even when slandered and sought to be destroyed by envy and greed through lawsuits, trials, smear campaigns and accusations. It takes an extra-ordinary soul to be able to face such injustices and still manage to love and do good despite the hurt and the lies.
问:你想看到的公正是什么?
答:永远不会再有真正的公正了。他逝去了,这就是最大的不公正,永远无法修正和弥补。
There will never be any true Justice. He is gone and that is the biggest injustice that cannot ever be made right or justified.
问:你作为歌迷群体中最常为迈克尔发声的人之一,有时你会感到害怕吗?你受到过威胁吗?
答:我在过去曾被某种程度的威胁过。要么暗示,要么公开。我担心过自己的生命吗?倒真的没有。要想吓到我,让我闭嘴,没那么容易。很惊讶的是,我甚至更被他的一些所谓的歌迷威胁过,而不是那些位居高位的人,后者有更多的理由让我闭嘴。
问:你是否依然相信还有更多的人和组织应该对迈克尔的死亡负责?莫里和AEG是怎么逃脱严厉惩罚的?你对那些死亡案官司的结果感到惊讶吗?
答:许多人应该为他的死亡负责,包括那些知道他身处危险却没有发出警报并通过任何方式去帮助的人。迈克尔被陷害了,他被置于一个不可能脱身的境地,并最终导致了他的死亡。这是一个金钱和权力的名下的邪恶计划。
A lot of people are responsible for his Death, including those who knew he was in danger and did not raise red flags or help in any way. Michael was framed and put in a situation that became impossible to get out of and ultimately led to his death. An evil master plan in the name of money and power.
莫里和AEG逃脱惩罚一点都不让我惊讶。我失望吗?是的,但并不惊讶。这是一个腐败的世界。有权人威胁并互相买通,撒谎并方便地将重要证据剥离。对这些审判的结果,让我难过的是迈克尔又一次被拉入泥潭,而他却无法再为自己辩护。
How Murray and AEG escaped severe punishment was of no surprise to me. Was I disappointed, yes, but not shocked. This is a corrupt world. Powerful people threaten and pay each-other off, lie and conveniently leave important evidence out. What bothered me about the outcome of these trials is how Michael was once again dragged in the mud with no way to defend himself anymore.
问:你对杰克逊遗产委员会的那些遗产项目怎么看?如果你不满意,你建议歌迷应该怎么样传承迈克尔的遗产并传递他的信息给更多人?这个议题总是让歌迷分裂。
答:我很恶心遗产在开始摧毁迈克尔的遗产,一切皆因贪婪。他们发行了专辑,里面有假歌,有重混的老样带,还有虚假的全息,等等……迈克尔是完美主义者。他不会想要老样带发行,他也讨厌混音。这是在给他永恒的音乐上留下无法永恒的印记,是对他天才的终极侮辱。
I am disgusted at how the Estate has begun to destroy Michael's Legacy, all in the name of greed. They are releasing albums with fake vocals, old remixed demos, fake holograms etc...Michael was a perfectionist. He chose to not have the old demos released and he hated remixes. They are time-stamping his timeless music, the ultimate insult to his genius.
问:你是他多少年的歌迷了?
答:我是他25年的歌迷了。
I have been a fan for 25 years.
问:你首先爱上迈克尔的是什么?
答:我爱迈克尔曾经代表并依然代表的一切。这个人,他的魔法,他的音乐,他的天才,他的心。他拯救了我人生,并让我许多的梦想成真。
I love Michael for everything he stood for and still stands for. The man, the magic, the music, the genius, the heart. He saved my life and made so many of my dreams come true.
问:迈克尔在世时,你拥有的最美好最甜蜜的回忆说什么?他怎么在个人和专业上影响到你?
答:我没有专门的一个甜蜜回忆,我很幸运地拥有很多和他的甜蜜回忆。我觉得最甜蜜最神奇的回忆就是,当我在梦幻庄园的时候,以及他人生最后几个月的时候。有一个瞬间是我想要记起的,因为当我在梦幻庄园时,这留给了我狂喜的感觉。在拥抱过他以后,我走向了他的海盗船娱乐场,并在上面玩了一次又一次,同时他的音乐在震响。这是我许多美好回忆之一。
I don't have one specific sweetest memory. I was blessed to have many with him. I think the sweetest magical memories were when I was at Neverland and also some during the last months of his life. One moment that I like to remember because of the feeling of ecstasy it gave me was at Neverland. After giving him a hug I walked over to his Pirate ship ride and rode it over and over again while his music was blasting. That's one of the many beautiful memories I have.
问:你接下来想为他做些什么?
答:所有我想做的,就是继续散播真相。关于他身上究竟发生了什么的真相,以及那是多么的不公正。我这么说,是因为我们曾在迈克尔生命的最后时刻伴随着他,而迈克尔告诉我们他备感压力,很不开心。我们眼看着他状况恶化,我们试图帮助,但已经太迟。我还要继续去做的,就是维护他的遗产,抵制遗产委员会想要兜售的MJ新素材。当然,我会维护他的事业,并继续爱他,直到我的生命尽头。
All I can do is continue to spread the truth. The truth about what happened to him and how unjust it was. I say this because some of us were there at the end and Michael told us he was pressured and unhappy. We saw him decline and we tried to help but it was too late. What I will also continue to do is defend his Legacy and boycott what the Estate is selling as new MJ material. And of course, I will always defend his causes and love him until the day I die.
问:那你未完成的使命是?
答:我不确定你可以说我有一个“使命”。我只想做的,就是不想要真相随时间消逝。太多人想要用谎言改变历史。我会确保我知道的一切和我看到的一切不会消亡。无论是否能达成什么目标,我的良知都告诉我应该这样去做,至少这是他应得的。
I'm not sure you could say I have a "mission". All I want to do is not let the truth die with time. So many try to change history by telling lies. I will make sure that what I know and what I saw doesn't just disappear. Whether it serves a purpose or not, it's why my conscious tells me to do, and that's the least he deserves.
问:对那些洛杉矶之外的人们,以及MJ世界之外的人们,你觉得他们还看不清楚的事情是什么?你想对歌迷们说些什么,以及你想对那些还不确定该支持哪边的歌迷说些什么?
答:我只想说,证据不会撒谎。我相信如今任何可以上网的人,都应该知道迈克尔永远不会让那些“新专辑”发行,而他们兜售的“迈克尔-杰克逊”,有一半都甚至不是他本人。基于同样的理由,我不相信歌迷们会看不到迈克尔是被陷害的,而他的死亡也不是事故。一切,都只需要花几分钟去调查,只需要花几分钟去关注真相。可是,有些歌迷不想被真相“困扰”,只宁愿享受产品带来的快乐,无论是真是假。我敦促所有爱着迈克尔-杰克逊的人,不只爱他的音乐,也爱他这个人的歌迷,睁开他们的眼睛,尊重他的遗产,这才能给他荣耀。他留给了我们太多,足够传承几百年。
All I can say is that the evidence doesn't lie. I don't believe that anyone these days, with access to the internet, doesn't know Michael would never want these new albums released and that half of what they are selling as "Michael Jackson" is not even him. For that same reason, I don't believe they could not see that Michael was framed and that his death was not accidental. All it takes is a few minutes of research or of even caring to know the truth. However, some fans don't want to be "bothered" with the truth and would rather just enjoy the product, fake or not. I urge anyone who loves Michael Jackson not just for the music but also for the man, to open their eyes and honor him by respecting his Legacy. He left us with so much. It should be enough for centuries to come. |
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