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发表于 2006-12-10 10:52:22 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
口述《萌芽》杂志主编 赵长天  采访 本报记者 张英 韩寒的作品,我看过《三重门》和《长安乱》,还有一些短篇小说。他写长篇前的短篇作品,我都看过。包括他参加“新概念作文大赛”的初试作文和复试作文,都是我当面看着他写出来的。后来,他的一些短篇作品,都发表在《萌芽》杂志上,我个人觉得,韩寒受《围城》影响很大。他的写作比较率性,喜欢直接表达自己的情绪,在写作上不是投合市场的东西,也不是刻意要在文学上追求什么,就是直接表达自己的想法。   他的长篇《三重门》,写的是在中学读书的学生生活,还有对教育体制的不满。亲身的体会加上大量经历过的生活,然后他又喜欢《围城》和钱锺书,把这些结合在一起,就构成了《三重门》。   《三重门》完稿后,有出版社看完稿,列出很多问题,建议出版前做大修改。我当时不是很同意。我觉得小说里一些原生态的东西还是很好,尽管有借鉴、模仿的影子。他才刚刚开始写作,受人影响这也很正常。   作为长篇小说,《三重门》并不是特别成熟。但它很真实地反映他的情绪和学生生活,又因他很聪明、机智,也很有幽默感,这些加在一起,就构成一个很成功的小说。它符合很多学生眼里的学校生活,引起很多共鸣。韩寒当时又得了《萌芽》作文大赛一等奖,主动从学校离开,拒绝上复旦,这些事被媒体广泛传播后,才会有那么大的反响。   韩寒另一部长篇《长安乱》借用了武侠小说的壳,但本质上写的是年轻人走上社会后遇到的事。他要以小说的形式表达对社会的看法和思考。这本小说文字比《三重门》好,但遗憾的是他没有提供一个好的故事,而是继续原有风格,想到哪儿写到哪儿,有点写意识流。好像他在写的时候也没有想好小说的结构、结尾,不知道自己会写什么。但他凭着聪明、机智,他把对生活的看法和观念写成了小说。   《长安乱》如果是别人写的,肯定不会畅销,但因为它是韩寒写的,他已经有一个很大的读者群了,有号召力,所以这本书也成为了畅销书。   总的来说,我对韩寒的印象是:本色、机智、聪明,写作比较自然,不刻意,非常放松。这样的状态很难得。这也许和他从没把文学当成职业有关,赛车才是他的理想。对他来说,文学不是理想也不是一辈子的事业,是抱着“玩票”的兴趣玩玩,心态非常自由,文学也因此获得了自由。我很看好他的写作。   去年我们搞过一个“文学代际沟通论坛”,邀请了一批作家和“80后”作家(这个提法不那么准确)面对面沟通。我发现,很多“80后”多少看过一些余华、叶兆言、方方等人的作品,而这些作家基本没看过“80后”的作品。开会前,我们打印了一些“80后”的作品,结果余华、格非他们看了很吃惊,完全改变了对“80后”的印象。   现在生活忙碌,作家不看“80后”的作品很正常。但文学评论界这么多年里对这一群体的忽视和漠视,显然是不应该的。更不应该的是,作品没有看,就敢乱发言,甚至写文章批评,这样的行为未免太轻率了。   “80后”其实差别非常大。韩寒、郭敬明、张悦然这些在市场上走红的并不能代表这批作家。蒋峰、小饭、徐敏霞等,写作非常严肃,而且在文体、语言、形式上都有大胆实验。他们却被忽视了,既没人看他们的作品,也得不到市场认可,发表和出版都非常困难,这比1980年代的文学环境还残酷。   孙甘露、格非、余华那些人,年轻时搞实验、先锋,还有批文学杂志编辑和评论家在看,在花时间和精力,做分析研究。好或不好,都有人认真评论。   现在要做这样的研究,除非是国家拨款搞个课题,才会有人读这些年轻作家的作品,否则,根本就没有人花时间和心血认真去做研究。
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发表于 2006-12-10 11:44:37 | 显示全部楼层
韩寒好象在玩文学,态度不是那麽端正……我还是喜欢鲁迅先生这样把它当回事的作家:angry11

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发表于 2006-12-10 11:44:38 | 显示全部楼层
老文章了~ 对于HH,各有各的理解,至于谁在被谁玩儿,仁者见仁,智者见智~

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 楼主| 发表于 2006-12-10 11:59:29 | 显示全部楼层
是啊~ 前天上艺术概论课说到了艺术批评,所有找出来看看

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发表于 2006-12-18 21:47:25 | 显示全部楼层
鲁迅是在利用文学吧,这是一种什么境界!?

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发表于 2007-1-19 09:53:52 | 显示全部楼层
刚写了篇文章: Writers from the 1980s: A Golden Generation Tarnished Jiang Fangzhou, born in 1989, published her first novel Rainbow Rider last year. In an interview, she rejected the label of "post-1980s writers," which she saw as a "scandalous" name. The "post-1980s writers" is a specific phrase in China describing the group of literature rookies born in the 1980s and who have written some real gems in recent years. However, this group of writers has come under attack by critics and older writers due to their overnight fame and fortune. Of course any hint of jealousy would be vehemently denied, and replaced with accusations of producing low-quality books to make a quick buck. The situation is also worsened by the presence on the market of several copycats.
Han Han (up left), Teddy Carey (up right), An Yiru (down left), and Guo Jingming (down right)
Guo Jingming stands out as a good example. He was accused last year of plagiarizing other's work and of copyright infringement. Even after being ordered to disburse 200,000 yuan in damages, Guo's persistent refusal to apologize and to admit guilt drew further public outcry. Far from being overwhelmed, the 24-year-old has been publishing his Top Novel, a fiction monthly magazine, since last November. One of the post-80s' generation was also embroiled in 2006's "Copygate" scandal. The situation came into the media spotlight when a Beijing newspaper ran the news on January 4. An Yiru, a young girl who published three bestselling books analyzing ancient Chinese poetry last year, stood accused of plagiarizing from a teacher in Shandong Province, who had been posting essays about Chinese old literature on various BBS and blogs. Han Han, arguably the most famous young writer in China with millions of books, also refused to be branded as a post-1980s writer. As another renowned young writer Zhang Yueran once said, it is ludicrous to classify writers according to the year of their birth. In 2004, close to 1,000 "post-1980s writers" published their works, nearly 100 of whom met with popular success. In 2006, the number shrunk dramatically with no more than 10 still at the top. What factors led to this downturn? Last year, Nanjing Daily researched the subject, its findings concluding that 90 percent of the published post-80s writers have stopped writing altogether. About 70 percent are reduced to aiding publishers to "piece together" books or are employed as ghost writers, earning 1,000-2,000 yuan a month. An official from the Hunan Literature and Arts Publishing House admitted that without any market support, they would indubitably be turned away by publishers. The vicious circle is therefore completed since without publisher backing, Chinese readers will dismiss these young writers, even those who once drew critical acclaim and public success. The Seventh Congress of Chinese Writers was held in November 2006, without a single post-80s writer on the name list. "I don't care about things like these official writers' congresses or associations; I don't care if these old men accept me. Their formalism doesn't concern me. I just use my words to record my life, and find those who understand me," Teddy Carey, a 24-year-old writer, told China.org.cn. He published his first book, Pretty Boys, in November 2005 and should release his second after the Spring Festival. "Any literary creation will have its readers," he added, expressing his desire to persevere in his writing career in the future. His attitude may just reflect that of his generation, unlike any other China has experienced. Fashionable, care-free, always seeking to challenge authority figures and traditions, this iconoclastic generation sounds familiar to those the West has tackled for over three decades. But in China, a set of values perceived as a lack of social responsibility by elders come into sharp relief when they are hailed in literature, an art-form usually the realm of venerable and experienced sages. Han Han is another typical figure. When he discovered that famous writer and literature critic Bai Ye had penned some unfriendly comments about him and his generation in a blog post last February, he struck back. Han Han's series of harsh articles derided classical Chinese literature circles "as meaningless and corrupted", adding that older writers and critics are standing in the way of younger ones. The debate continued while other famed figures from the worlds of literature, movies and music as well as thousands of netizens joined the fray, in itself becoming a national cultural phenomenon. Finally, Bai Ye shut down his blog for good. Han Han won, and was acclaimed as a hero for daring to stand up to the old, the powerful and the traditional. Ironically, Han Han has moved away from the forum literary. Aside from becoming a semi-professional car racer, he has tried his hand at singing and part-time blogging. However, the blame should also lie with publisher who speculated in the business and hype, toying with the livelihoods of young writers, building up expectations when few real prodigies were to be found.
Zhi An, literature critic and deputy chief editor of New Star Press expressed his pessimism for the future of the publication industry to New Century Weekly on January 9. "Now, the market-oriented industry only cares about the short-term hype, not the long-term effect. Publishers fawn over readers by catering to general interests, but the overall quality of books is declining. It took one year to prepare, edit, print and publish a book before, but now, many books are ready in one or two months. It is stupid." He had to admit that post-80s "youth novels" containing too much trendy sentiment and similar themes remained best sellers on the book charts. Other bestsellers include those receiving props from the Internet through blogs, and on TV programs. "Among the 200,000 books published every year, only one to five percent could be said to be good. Readers have to use their own judgment to find the right ones," Zhi An said, and expressed his sadness once again. Zhang Yueran is the first post-80s writer to indulge in a spot of self-reflection. On her blog, she wrote: "Before I understood all those things, I was made a 'star writer'. All my previous works were led by various powers down a road of flaunts and uproars. Many fellows of mine are scheming, they don't care about consequences and look for made-up honors. It is always so easy for us to ignore or forgive or even indulge our faults, as if running towards an evil Utopia. Did any one of us really realize that this road would never lead us to true literature and our initial dreams? ... We are commercial instruments exploited by various people to make money; we are entertainment tools used and played by media and critics... Finally, we inevitably go to a state of suicide: make up more meaningless honors for ourselves and play various games which have nothing to do with literature..." But An Yiru, though rocked in scandal, continued to defend post-80s writers when she accepted an interview for New Century Weekly's latest issue in 2007. "The media don't say good things on post-80s, but generally speaking, I feel they have not done anything outrageous. What they write may not be classic, but these books do attract younger kids to read, which is better than smoking, drinking and hanging around bars." Where does the future lie for post-80s writers, in both East and West? Some say they are still growing. If not, they will soon be replaced by the new crop of "post-90s" writers who have already shown their prowess. For example, a 13-year-old Chengdu boy, Tang Chao, published a long novel last year, becoming the youngest member of Sichuan Writers' Association. From a Western perspective, the phrase "post-80s writers" carries little meaning. Unlike China, artistic and literary praise and achievement have never been compartmentalized and judged by generation but only measured by talent and impact. Although respect and credit is given where due to older writers who have consistently been at the leading edge of literary accomplishment, the presence of young writers, representing the ideals and styles of newer generations, is seen as an integral part of the publishing tapestry. The above examples of the alienation of younger writers would strike Western readers as peculiar and destructive. Although it is understandable to try and maintain the quality of overall literary creation by weeding out novels of lesser skill, the over-reliance on older writers and their macho harassment of any seemingly threatening their place could prevent and discourage the rise of a new generation in an industry always needing fresh blood. An old English saying, "from the mouth of babes," signifying the truth that is often spoken by children not yet exposed to the world of lies created by adults takes on particular relevance in this light. No suggestion is being made that young children should be published for their own sake but allowing fresher viewpoints and opinions, which can only truly be expressed by younger people, is essential for any nation's literary heritage to avoid dwindling into irrelevant obscurity. On both sides of the Atlantic, youthful writers like Zadie Smith and Christopher Paolini have been making headlines for different reasons.
Christopher Paolini
Paolini, 23, is currently writing the third book of his Inheritance trilogy, the first book of which, Eragon, has already been made into an eponymous movie, starring Edward Speelers and Jeremy Irons. Paolini published Eragon at the age of 19 and while such success is inspiring, coming from one so young, critics and readers alike have not spared the rod when chastising his work. Although his fantastical novels have met with success among children, the industry at large has not been so receptive. Although both of Paolini's books, Eragon and its sequel Eldest have topped the New York Times Bestsellers' List, accusations have flown concerning his work's highly derivative nature. Early on in the movie version's development, Elizabeth Gabler, president of Fox 2000, a division of 20th Century Fox, said of Eragon: "We found the core relationship between a boy and a dragon who share a telepathic connection a strong concept for a movie." Worthy praise for a movie executive trying to stir up interest in their newest film. However, she went on to admit Paolini's use of Tolkien fantasy elements such as a world populated by elves and dwarves, both created in Lord of the Rings. Paolini also drew heavy inspiration from the plot of Star Wars in building the story, with a young boy dreaming of becoming a mystical Dragon Rider while seeking to avenge his murdered uncle. In contrast, across the pond in Britain, Zadie Smith is picking up award after award. Despite her birth in 1975, she is firmly considered part of the younger generation in Britain, exemplifying the absence of any generational groups ranked by decades. Born from Jamaican and English ancestry, she represents a facet of a revitalized, multiethnic Britain, and the acclaim she has received from all circles cements her position as one of the most important British writers today. Her debut novel, White Teeth, gathers a cast of colorful and emotionally complex characters, exploring the issues of religion, ethnicity and social status that resonate throughout modern British society. Exploring issues of what is commonly called "post-colonialism", Smith succeeds in truly mastering the art of putting across affairs of colossal complexity in simple and powerful tones.
Zadie Smith
To claims that White Teeth carried heavy influences from Smith's experiences, she was quoted in the Guardian as responding: "White Teeth is not really based on personal family experience. When you come from a mixed-race family, it makes you think a bit harder about inheritance and what's passed on from generation to generation. But as for racial tensions -- I'm sure my parents had the usual trouble getting hotel rooms and so on, but I don't talk to them much about that part of their lives. A lot of it is guesswork or comes from reading accounts of immigrants coming here. I suppose the trick of the novel, if there is one, is to transpose the kind of friendships we have now to a generation which was less likely to be friends in that way." When comparing the fate of young Chinese writers to the success oft met by their British and American counterparts, some fundamental differences must be outlined. The sheer numbers of novels published annually in China make it extremely difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff. Thus, post-80s writers with a modicum of talent must either work doubly hard to push their own promotion or be lucky in finding an agent or publishing house that believes in them enough to do the groundwork. In contrast, in Western countries, the sheer obstacle course that the average unknown novelist must undergo to acquire an agent and put his manuscript on the desk of someone who matters tends to weed out the less-talented creations. The best summary for the plight of a young writer may have been given by Jules Renard when he wrote: "Literature is an occupation in which you have to keep proving your talent to people who have none." (by Keen Zhang and Chris Dalby, January 15, 2007)
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原帖由 mkgenie 于 2007-1-19 09:53 发表 刚写了篇文章:
嗯,些的八错!:angry11

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发表于 2007-1-19 10:34:59 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 kiki 于 2007-1-19 10:28 发表 嗯,些的八错!:angry11
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原帖由 mkgenie 于 2007-1-19 10:34 发表 看得懂吗你
要你管?!:clap0 :bye1: 起码28个字母还认得!:ranting7

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发表于 2007-1-19 12:36:52 | 显示全部楼层
佩服老K的文笔~ 完全没有任何中国人写的痕迹~~~
梦里花落知多少,你爱谈天我爱笑

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发表于 2007-1-19 12:37:32 | 显示全部楼层
提议老K为中国80后英文作家的代表人物!
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原帖由 joz-001 于 2007-1-19 12:37 发表 提议老K为中国80后英文作家的代表人物!
:-_-15
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原帖由 joz-001 于 2007-1-19 12:36 发表 佩服老K的文笔~ 完全没有任何中国人写的痕迹~~~
小猪啊,里面提到GJM没有?怎么说滴?:(10

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原帖由 kiki 于 2007-1-19 10:42 发表 要你管?!:clap0 :bye1: 起码28个字母还认得!:ranting7
吼吼~怪辛苦你的了。 即使是老KEEN写的我也不打算把它看懂

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发表于 2007-1-19 21:05:34 | 显示全部楼层
我什么时候能写成这样我的考试就没问题啦◎◎!
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