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总结一下MJ和Glenda的电话录音,72楼更新完毕,已作总结(更新帖子,不信者慎入)

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G- I think its because she grew up sheltered..you know.. and had tutors... and never really had a childhood with friends. (inaudible) didn't you even say that she
told you her most trusted friend is her childhood nanny. You two grew up ...somewhat similiar that's why you relate to her.

M- Yea , she tells " age is a matter of feeling not of years" I love figuring things out (pause) but I can't completely figure her out. Where do I stand in the (inaudible) of it.

G- The time probably went by so fast huh? . How did she get (inaudible) them to say yes to ((inaudible) ??) school in U.S.?

M- oh,She kept bugging me all the time to help her cause I said I'd be there to look out for her.She begged me to ask.. help convince (him?). Another reason against
saying anything about anything....they will think we planned it or something.

G- She has really adjusted well to (life??) I see.

M- Yea.. very well..she.. I wish I could just go hang out with her (sometimes??) but with my situation its never possible. I get ..so damn jealous when (inaudible), I
wish it where me. I don't know why,..uh.. I know for fact she won't do nothing to hurt me and I know I have her heart but still she is always talking..whispering on
the phone...it just gets to me cause I always think the worse (i'm nosy like that??) (inaudible) even if its not. I think its because of Joseph. (inaudible) I learned
that.

G - Is it to guys her own age? probably just gossiping with friends..its normal.
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M- I guess..I don't listen or anything (inaudible). I know she a good (girl??) but she can be easily influenced (inaudible) , everyone knows that she is so
wealthy..so they take advantage. I said to her " You don't always have to (inaudible) out" , she was like " I don't get it, everyones poor in college". She has had a really different (inaudible) upbringing than most people.

G- I bet she did!! ...in a palace an all...You can't really spoil her then, right? I mean she has everything?

M- well she ain't even like that around me (inaudible) doesn't care about stuff like material things. Its not her thing. She says she loves it here with me (pause)
because we can just pretend for a little bit (inaudible).. it happily ever after... (neverland??)

audio cut---starts again.


In another spot of audio.


M- she was about to cut her hair shorter, (pause) I told you I like long hair , I said "Don't do it, you'll regret it." her hair is nice long (inaudible) and with her

skintone.. you know (inaudible), (he says) (arab or arabian) women have great complexions like east asians.

(missing sentences) Can't make it out


Glenda- (pause) (inaudible)You guys go through this a lot. I use to when I was first dating Scott, It's cute (inaudible).

Michael- hmm....not while its happening. The time to let it go has gone a long time ago. (whistling) She has my

heart. (lets out a loud sigh) ( pause) ... (loud music) I like this song.

G- who sing it? ( i can't hear it)

M- uh,,this artist.. ( Maxi preist?? ).. (pause)

Glenda- (inaudible) maybe things will change? Its always possible (inaudible).

M- I doubt things over there will change. (inaudible) she won't leave everything she's ever known ..I don't want it that (inaudible) way but I do sometimes wish.

G- whats wrong with her family. "S' should stand up to them. Is it because her religion is so strict ?.

(inaudible) Heres the part they discuss (some noise but they do say something about the Middle East and Asia (I tried to figure out exactly what but its impossible. They never say a country though. )

M- pardon? I missed that
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G- she should stand up to them!

M- not likely..its hard. (She is??)(inaudible) willing to but I want her to be happy with her decisions (inaudible) happy life. (inaudible) (inaudible) (inaudible) I love her too much to not want that.

G- They are never open minded over there but its not like she is the only one, I have heard this (inaudible) happen before. Didn't you say there are hundreds of royal members in the (court??).

M- (inaudible) I know but its not gonna happen. She is never going to leave without their permission to do so. I

don't know if she should even say anything (inaudible). She said to me "My father is open minded but its not only his decision (inaudible)" She (inaudible) to bring shame (inaudible).

G- jeez, this is so complicated. I feel so bad cause she sounds like the sweetest person and good for you too,

Michael. What luck that you actually meet the perfect person,,(pause) and it turns out to be forbidden fruit..

(inaudible) ANd you can't even run away..your the most (inaudible) recognized person. (laughs)

M- hmm .. uh...I know right.

audio starts again (inaudible sentence) (inaudible) (inaudible sentence) (inaudible sentence) (inaudible) (inaudible sentence)

G- Are you (inaudible) still going to do what you said the last time we talked? Wouldn't that make it harder?

M- Ohhh, you mean ( pause) .oh that (chuckles) ..I want to because at least I think of her (inaudible) partner (that way??) and I'd like to remember that forever. I don't know if she will still want to but she said " no one can ever know"....(pause) " Its not like they check (inaudible)that out" ooh I don't even want to think about someone else! makes me sick. She knows how important (inaudible) it would be/mean to me.

G- (quiet) I'm sorry , it must be hard

M- one sec, the other line....( talking to someone) ( comes backs)... she said to tell you hello.

G- oh that's nice. Say hi from me.

M - oh an she sayin to me " don't talk about me with anyone " ...even you....I said "i'm not talking bout you , i'm talking about me" She thinks I tell you everything

(inaudible) but I don't even!

G - yea!! I never ask you about that stuff..(laughs) Is she on her way?
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发表于 2010-1-17 12:16:49 | 显示全部楼层
英语看得真累!
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发表于 2010-1-17 12:26:27 | 显示全部楼层
看的好累啊 ,谁能翻译下阿 真的很想知道S是谁
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发表于 2010-1-17 12:29:28 | 显示全部楼层
MJ永远都不会想让这些东西泄露出来的。
但问题是他是一个没有隐私的人。所有有关的他的东西迟早会被大众知道,早晚而已。这是成为传奇与历史名人所不得不付出的代价。他注定会成为后人研究分析的对象。
他承受了太多误解歪曲,生前承受了无数骂名与怀疑,即使爱着他的人也不一定能理解他。

我转贴只是为了消除一部分对他的误解,他是一个正常与活生生的人,不仅是一个被抽象化的偶像或符号。
请原谅我转贴,MJ,但这是拦不住的,我不转也会有其他人转。
很欣慰MJ有过真正投入与甜蜜的情感经历。
但我真的不想知道“S"是谁,让她继续保持自己的平静生活吧。我只关注MJ经历了什么。
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MJ永远都不会想让这些东西泄露出来的。
但问题是他是一个没有隐私的人。所有有关的他的东西迟早会被大众知 ...
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心有戚戚焉啊!
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谢谢飞扬清婉

关于S的部分除了和MJ在一起的那些还有其他的吗?

我只是想知道她是什么样的人而已

至于和King相恋的那部分,无非约会看电影然后#!$%之类

谁都这么过来的,和咱平常人一样

不贴也罢,大家能想象得到的也就八九不离十了
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Michael: Joseph used to beat us all the time and... (inaudible).... He would, he would just (inaudible)... And I bought into that, he was like, "Oh you put on a few pounds." The only thing that I could control in my life, what with Motown... 'cause they tell you- when we used to go on Carson or Mike Douglas or whatever back then, when we used to do interviews as the Jackson Five, you know when you're in this kind of thing they (inaudible few seconds).... "Do you have a girlfriend?" "No." (Inaudible) You know, they dictate to you everything. What you wear, what you sing. 'Cause back then we weren't allowed to sing our own stuff. They dictate to you what you can wear... If you're on an interview, if you're going on Carson, "This is what you say, this is what don't say." The only control I had over my life was eating. I had no control. We had no control. *clears throat* I didn't, I didn't... I wasn't like my brothers. People, they're angry and they take it out on others. I was angry, but I took it out on myself. (Inaudible, something about Joseph again), when we were rehearsing on 2300- where we used to live. If I danced wrong, if I sang the wrong word, I'd get the hell beat out of me, I'd get thrown in the basement. But instead of taking that out on other people, I withdrew and I'd take it out on myself. There was nothing I could control in my life but my eating. And Joseph told me, "Oh, you're so black, you have such a big nose."

Glenda: He told you you were black?

Michael: Yeah. When I was little. "You look so black, you don't look like my child. Your nose is so big" and this and that. They used to call me Big Nose and stuff. And instead of retaliating on them, I just did it with myself.





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Michael: God, I'd fight Joseph back and I would get my @ss beat. Then I used to run and I threw a shirt (inaudible)

Glenda: (laughs)

Michael: And he'd knock me down on the floor, 'cause we were rehearsing in our living room (inaudible). He'd knock the [piss] outta me. And we were supposed to perform somewhere the next day. And he knocked me down so hard, I [knocked] my rib. And I was little...

Glenda: Mhm.

Michael: So I got up, I was so serious [furious?]. They talk about me being conceited, you know?

Glenda: Mhm.

Michael: I got up, and I was crying and stuff. And I said, "Joseph, if you hit me again, I'm not performing!"

Glenda: (laughs)

Michael: He's like, "What the @#$% did you say?"

Glenda: (gasps)

Michael: I'm like, "You hit me again, Joseph"- I couldn't, I wasn't even nine years old (inaudible). I said, "Joseph, if you hit me again"- and I was crying my eyes out- I said, "If you hit me again, I am NOT performing."

Glenda: (sympathetic sigh)

Michael: And he left me alone.

Glenda: (laugh)

Michael: I said, "I'm not doin' the show!" He said, "Don't you know I will kick your (inaudible)." And I got up (inaudible) and I said, "You hit me again and I won't perform." And he knew I was the star performer...

Glenda: Haha, yeah, really??

Michael: And he didn't hit me.

Glenda: Well, you had some leverage there. (laughs)

Michael: My brothers used to say, "Mike, you crazy, man, you crazy." And then when I would go to sleep at night, he would always scare us. He would be banging on the windows and stuff, and open the windows and poke in his head.

Glenda: That's horrible. That's awful-

Michael: Well you read that (inaudible) book, you read it.

Glenda: Oh, I don't- It's been a while since I read that book, I don't remember everything.

Michael: Yeah... he used to scare us in the middle of the night. We would be sleeping, and we had to get up early in the morning, we had to have rehearsal, get going, (inaudible)

Glenda: God.

Michael: And he'd bang on the windows and we'd look out the windows and he had a monster mask on.

Glenda: (gasps)

Michael: (inaudible, he may have been imitating scared whining)

Glenda: How horrible.

Michael: And we'd get in trouble for crying.
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呃,我的意思是除去和MJ是怎么约会的部分,关于S的部分是不是都贴完了?— —

因为他里面貌似不只谈了S一个女人,我英语又不好

搞不清楚他口中那些“she”到底哪个是哪个
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Glenda: Because I didn't know what I had done.

Michael: [She was just (inaudible)]

Glenda: Angry at me.

Michael: Oh.

Glenda: Because I didn't know what I had done and I was just [staring at] her, I was (inaudible), without emotion because she was getting angry... and getting my face, and I was thinking, "I am not going to let you know how much you are hurting me right now." So, "I'm not going to show you an emotion, I'm not going to show you what you're doing to me, [I'm not gonna cry]." And so after she would leave, and then I would go (inaudible), and then I would have a reaction. (Inaudible) analyze why I don't react. And I think that's the reason, because I learned a long time ago- Don't. Show. Reaction.

Michael: Don't show emotions and don't show feelings.

Glenda: Right. Don't let that person see your reaction. Don't let that person see your emotions, see what they're doing to you, analyzing (inaudible). (sound in the background) (laughs)

Michael: (After a silence) Hello?

Glenda: [Oh, I was thinking], oh, 'cause I was thinking of (inaudible- Rob/Bob/etc?). Remember when, um, (inaudible, something about "cry")?

Michael: Mmm.

Glenda: I think it was you [crying], [it sounded like you] were crying on the phone, um, 'cause you didn't want me to read that book that Taraborelli had written.

Michael: Yeah.

Glenda: (inaudible) you didn't want me to read it. (inaudible) called up and you were all upset because (inaudible) read it.

Michael: Right.

Glenda: So you were just waiting to get to know me better before you [let] me read that book?

Michael: (Silence) I didn't think you would understand me and I (inaudible).

Glenda: Really?

Michael: And...then I got to know you better. (Inaudible).

Glenda: (Inaudible).

Michael: [That's what it was] like. We just go to know each other. You know. And, uh, I didn't want you to listen to [that]. And [I thought that] (inaudible) was real close (inaudible), that close. And I didn't wanna lose that. I didn't want you to misunderstand [the book]. (Inaudible seconds) it's okay.

Glenda: And that's why you (inaudible) read the book?

Michael: Yeah. (Inaudible) A lot of things have happened [to me]. [Well, see], I mean, you don't understand, you can't empathize because you haven't been there.

Glenda: [Yeah], that's true.

Michael: Like, like, I mean, we could go over this for days and it's not even done.

Glenda: I just wanted you to know that, um... I sense(d) your loneliness [and sensitivity] and the fact that [he], like, didn't want anything (inaudible), [just wasn't possible].

Michael: (Inaudible) accepted me (inaudible- a brief jump in the audio made this hard to discern). When I was a child I wasn't allowed to (inaudible).

Glenda: Why weren't you?

Michael: Well, you read that (inaudible), in Taraborelli's book. We, we couldn't have [a] social life with other children.


********Audio jumps a couple more times, presumably ommitted parts of the conversation.*********


Michael: Tell me, which (inaudible) sounds like a (inaudible), [Remember the Time] (inaudible). Which one you like [the best]?

Glenda: (Inaudible) [the other night].

Michael: Which one?

Glenda: Huh?

Michael: Which one?

Glenda: Which one?

Michael: Yeah.

Glenda: I like Remember the Time (inaudible).

Michael: You like Remember the Time [with] (may have been Eddie Murphy). (Laughs)

Glenda: Yeah. Which one do you like?

Michael: I like Remember the Time. I like Jam- it was real fun doing it with Michael. [But] I like Remember the Time. [Ah, but] I had the most fun doing Jam, out of all of my other ones.

Glenda: You look like you were having fun!

Michael: Yeah, I had fun with Naomi, but... [I, I hate doing that] (laughs)

Glenda: (laughs) What?

Michael: She's a sweetheart, she's a (inaudible). But I had the most fun when we were in Chicago and, um, doing Jam. I had fun... [doing Jam].

Glenda: Yeah, haha.

Michael: (chuckles)

Glenda: I like the way, at the end when you get down on the floor, you're trying to move his feet.

Michael: (Laughs)

Glenda: (giggles)

Michael: Oh, god, you didn't see the making of that.

Glenda: Uh uh.

Michael: It was so funny because I was on the floor, right?

Glenda: Uh-huh.

Michael: And he put [the basketball?] my head and he held me down on the floor.

Glenda: No!

Michael and Glenda: (both laughing)

Michael: He's so big! Compared to me.

Glenda: 'Cause you're so small.

Michael: What?

Glenda: 'Cause you're so small.

Michael: I know! And it was so funny because I was down on the floor in the video, the actual video, and, uh, I was trying to make him move his feet. God, he was, like, so stiff!

Glenda: (laughs)

Michael: He was (in a deeper voice), "Yeah, yeah. That's it, yeah."

Glenda: (laughs)

Michael: Hold on one second, please... 'Kay?

Glenda: Okay. What else did Heavy D sing?

Michael: Heavy D did um, (inaudible). (Inaudible) yeah, Heavy D did Overweight Lovers. (Inaudible)

Glenda: Oh, is he in the video?

Michael: Yeah.

Glenda: (Inaudible) is it?

Michael: Yeah, yeah.

Glenda: Oh, really??

Michael: (in a low voice) Heavy D the Overweight Lovaaa!

Glenda: Awww, I [don't/do/so] remember that!

Michael: Yeah. I like Heavy D.

Glenda: (some sort of whimper?)

Michael: And, uh, he worked with Teddy Riley. You know, Teddy Riley, that guy. [He, he goes], "First I cooled it like a fan. Got with Janet, then with guy, then with Michael 'cause it ain't too hard for me to jam."

*********Conversation cut again.**********

Michael: I take them off [my face], I wave to the girls in the balcony and say "This is for the girls in the balcony." (Inaudible) I take them off and then I put 'em back on. [That was hard.] I didn't wanna do it.

Glenda: (Inaudible) wearing sunglasses all the time?

Michael: I wore shades for years, you know. I wear shades because... Like, like (inaudible) said, and it's true, your eyes are [like a window to your soul]. I didn't want anyone to look into my soul. You know, I didn't want anybody to [see my soul]. (Inaudible) a lot of pain and (inaudible) very scared.

Glenda: (Inaudible- "don't look solemn".)

Michael: I really don't (inaudible)?

Glenda. No. You don't.

Michael: Take a look at those eyes.

Glenda: (Mumble- "hiding the world from your face".)

Michael: (Inaudible)

Glenda: What does that mean?

Michael: That was if like, if someone, if like.... (silence) If like you see someone's eyes, or you draw a painting on the draw. It's like... did you ever see me on the cover of Bad?

Glenda: Are you asking me if I saw the cover of Bad?

Michael: Yeah.

Glenda: Yeah!

Michael: I had light contacts on and that was all airbrushed. When you see me on Dangerous- that's all airbrush. That's an airbrushing.

Glenda: Your eyes?

Michael: Yeah. I do not look that perfect.

Glenda: (sort of chuckles) Okay... (laughs) (Inaudible comment).

Michael: It's airbrushing.

Glenda: Oh, okay. Is there a reason why you just shade your eyes (inaudible)?

Michael: Because they're supposed to be like a [vision] into my soul. (Inaudible) into my soul.

Glenda: What?

Michael: That was airbrushed.

Glenda: Okay.

Michael: I'll tell you honestly what Elizabeth and I talk about sometimes. She got so... effed up (inaudible) from being a child star. And I was so screwed up (inaudible). (Inaudible- "dead"?) eyes.

Glenda: (Inaudible) eyes?

Michael: (Inaudible) look like my eyes. Those have been airbrushed. I mean, when you see someone on the cover of a magazine, or Vogue, or Rolling Stone, (inaudible), it's airbrush you know? You wanna look perfect.

Glenda: (Inaudible- something about the cover of Vogue again.)

Michael: Oh, sure it does. Of course.

Glenda: (chuckle)

Michael: But it's like, if (inaudible- something about a "Jim or somebody like that"). They'll say, "You're gonna be on the cover of um, Rolling Stone, or something like that." You'll look perfect. No matter what you have wrong with you.

Glenda: Yeah.

Michael: That's how it is in the business. You gotta look perfect.

Glenda: Well you do look perfect in that one picture on the cover of Rolling Stone where you've got your hair up and you're looking down. That's a great picture. (Inaudible) you don't look at the camera.

Michael: Because I don't want to. (Inaudible) I say on the Dangerous album, you know, a lot of things that-

**********Audio cut off.***********
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Michael: [That] I'm lonely and stuff. I say that on a lot of songs.

Glenda: You say that in um in [that one good song] um, Who Is It.

Michael: [Don't you know that I'm lonely?] (Inaudible)

Glenda: Yeah.

Michael: I say that in a lot of songs. (Inaudible) like Will You Be There.

Glenda: (Inaudible) say "don't be judging".

Michael: I say what?

Glenda: "Don't be judging" (inaudible) in Who Is It.

Michael: [No/Oh. Don't be, don't be, don't be judging me.] You know I thought when I first started talking to you (inaudible).

Glenda: (laughs)

Michael: I thought, my god, she understands me. I mean, she hasn't been through what I been through. I mean, she has, but... She doesn't (inaudible). There is no judgement there.

Glenda: Well, I thought you were drawn to me because, um, you were like (inaudible).

Michael: I was drawn to you because you were very accepting. You were accepting. (inaudible-whispering)

Glenda: What is that?

Michael: (inaudible-whispering)

Glenda: Intri...?

Michael: (inaudible-whispering)

Glenda: En... eccentric?

Michael: (inaudible- whispering a bit louder, sounds like "eccentric")

Glenda: What??

Michael: (Whispers word again)?

Glenda: I don't even know that word!

Michael: (Inaudible) Like I said. (inaudible-"money") If you have money, you're called ("eccentric" word again). If...


Glenda: (laughs)

Michael: You know, you just accepted me no matter what.

Glenda: I did! And I do! I still do.

************Audio cut off.************

Michael: The other day, after my video ["came on" or "I came home"].... I don't know what happened. They couldn't get me out of the trailer with my own band and stuff. And I'm on tour and stuff. Travelling with my (Inaudible), stuff like that. And... (inaudible) I don't associate with them. [It's at] rehearsal, or I have to be on stage. Or back in the hotel room. I don't associate, really, with those people.

Glenda: What, any of them?

Michael: No, I don't associate with them. I [stay off to] myself.

Glenda: Why? (Inaudible- might be something about "feeling accepted")?

Michael: I don't. I feel uncomfortable- I go, "Okay, this is my band, we got Michael here, we got so-and-so."

Glenda: (Started, interrupted by Michael)

Michael: We got Sheryll, we got, you know, Jennifer. And, I just don't associate with people.

Glenda: Do you, um? Okay. Is it hard for you to (sigh) to be (inaudible)?

Michael: I just-

Glenda: If I (inaudible) looking someone in face, or having someone look at you in the face 'cause you don't listen to-

Michael: You know what, I don't want them to get close, I don't want them to (inaudible- very low speaking). (Inaudible) [scared with the whole] anorexia thing. I feel bad...

Glenda: Don't, Michael. You look really good. (Silence) You look really good.

Michael: (After a silence- very low, strained) I don't look good. (Inaudible)

Glenda: (Inaudible)


**********Realized part 1-2 was an excerpt from this.**********

Michael: Joseph used to beat us all the time and... (inaudible).... He would, he would just (inaudible)... And I bought into that, he was like, "Oh you put on a few pounds." The only thing that I could control in my life, what with Motown... 'cause they tell you- when we used to go on Carson or Mike Douglas or whatever back then, when we used to do interviews as the Jackson Five, you know when you're in this kind of thing they (inaudible few seconds).... "Do you have a girlfriend?" "No." (Inaudible) You know, they dictate to you everything. What you wear, what you sing. 'Cause back then we weren't allowed to sing our own stuff. They dictate to you what you can wear... If you're on an interview, if you're going on Carson, "This is what you say, this is what don't say." The only control I had over my life was eating. I had no control. We had no control. *clears throat* I didn't, I didn't... I wasn't like my brothers. People, they're angry and they take it out on others. I was angry, but I took it out on myself. (Inaudible, something about Joseph again), when we were rehearsing on 2300- where we used to live. If I danced wrong, if I sang the wrong word, I'd get the hell beat out of me, I'd get thrown in the basement. But instead of taking that out on other people, I withdrew and I'd take it out on myself. There was nothing I could control in my life but my eating. And Joseph told me, "Oh, you're so black, you have such a big nose."

Glenda: He told you you were black?

Michael: Yeah. When I was little. "You look so black, you don't look like my child. Your nose is so big" and this and that. They used to call me Big Nose and stuff. And instead of retaliating on them, I just did it with myself.

Glenda: Are you happy with (inaudible)?

Michael: Yeah. I'm happy with my face and stuff.

Glenda: Are you happy with (inaudible)?

Michael: Yeah. Because I don't wanna look like [a girl?].

Glenda: Oh, you don't? (laughs)

Michael: I mean, people tell me, "Oh, yeah, you're really Janet". Or "Oh, (low voice) before LaToya posed nude." Sayin' you're the same person and stuff.

Glenda: Who said that? (laughs)

Michael: Oh, god, everyone in the media!

Glenda: (Inaudible)

Michael: Toya even wrote that in Playboy. She said, "Well, at least I can put the rumor to rest that Michael and I are the same person."

Glenda: (Laughs)

Michael: And showin' her breasts and stuff like that. Then they say, "Janet and Michael are the same person."

Glenda: (chuckle) That's crazy.
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这段考虑再三,决定不转了。
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我其实还是按照主观的恋爱经验来说的,一般看一个人爱得有多深,不是看他最开始的热情,而是看恋情结束后 ...
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反正我觉得在理解迈和Diana的感情时,不能忽略Berry Gordy,就是Motown的创始人,当Diana遇到迈时,Diana已经是Berry的女朋友了,他俩在一起很多年,还有个孩子,对了,碧昂斯演的那个《Dreamgirls》就是影射Motown那会儿,虽然细节有改编,但也能看出个大概,而碧昂斯的原型就是DR。对于迈来说Berry相当于他第二个父亲,Diana的辈分自然跟母亲差不多,像迈那么小就要工作,天天跟着那么严厉的父亲混,又没有皇太后在身边保护~~~就算皇太后在身边估计也打不过Joe。这时候Diana出现了,对迈爱护有加,就像他自传里说的又交他那么多东西,不光是艺术启蒙还有为人处世,演艺圈的规则等等,这时候的迈对Diana应该是崇拜的欣赏的,搞不好还有点小爱慕,这都是水到渠成的~~~而且,像魔力与疯狂里,提到Diana与迈,如果我没记错的话,也是把他们描述成异姓母子加姐弟一样~~~基于这些种种我感觉迈对Diana虽可能有过一度迷恋,但根本还是还是亲情加友情,至于他自传里提的lover,有这种感情在,但也像种恭维,就像母亲们多少会希望儿子有点恋母吧,当她们听到儿子说,以后我找老婆就找像我妈这样的时候,一定是感到很高兴的~~~~再说Diana是不是完全对迈没那种感觉,这块也挺微妙的,Diana对迈只是把迈当兄弟儿子看吗?小时候肯定是,但当迈长大了,那句my baby真的只是我的孩子的意思吗?还有前面童鞋贴的Diana坐迈腿上的那张,Diana对迈说‘call my name’~~~原话记不住了,反正感觉有点小挑逗,让迈只能害羞的低着头笑~~~说了这么多,可能挺乱的,我是想说,如果迈对Diana爱情多些,他们完全可以成为第二个Tim Robbins与Susan Sarandon,而Tim刚好跟迈同年,只是小2个月,Susan也只比Diana小3岁,跟Tim结婚也不是初婚。当Diana与Berry分手时,不再是老大的女人时,迈完全可以追求她的,Motown25时Diana已经与Berry分手几年了。
总结:我感觉迈和Diana的感情就是亲情友情加些些暧昧,估计连5%都到不了,迈也许有挚爱之人,爱情的那种,但不是Diana,但愿迈有过,即便是个我们可能永远也无法知道的人,希望有这么个人存在~~~~~累死我了 其实我原来也一度认为Diana是迈一生挚爱,爱情的那种,只是郎有情妾无意,或者因为年龄什么的,所以在网上查了很久,如果网上这些话是真的话,尤其是WIKI上说的是真的话,我对迈和Diana的看法也就是这样的了。
另外,不觉得迈后期不憧憬爱情了,或者光信上帝和歌迷了,他还是想结婚的,马丁那片子里他也说过会再婚,但是因为有了3个宝贝,他责任更重,挑选这个爱人难度更大,不光爱他还得爱他的孩子们,更何况过去两段不成功的婚姻,所以他会非常非常慎重,当然还有杂七杂八一大推烦事~~~~搞不好,TII巡演完了,孩子们再大点儿,咱们就能等到王后大驾了,可恨Murray把美好终结了,哎~~~~咱们就等着看王子公主们找到可心的另一半吧,也算稍偿心愿了
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    嗯,是这样的,我觉得那个服装设计师本来希望很大的,总觉得迈克会喜欢那一型

迈克对她说:“过去几年我换了6个经理人,你是唯一一直在我身边的人。每个人都来了又去,亲爱的,永远和我在一起”

这个“永远在一起”或许还有工作以外的意思,我个人觉得
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