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发表于 2014-7-31 13:11:39 | 显示全部楼层
太伤心了~~neverland也不再了.....好想哭!我知道MJ说的那些话不是真的!他还是好喜欢neverland的!只是逼于无奈,MJ也曾经说过neverland是他的,没有人可以夺走.....说不出的难过!!真的~~
所有的事情,现在串联起来看,真是一环扣一环  三哥杰梅恩费尽周折找来了一个神秘的黎巴嫩商人帮忙 这个人也是被MJ称之为恶魔的人!也很怕他!托梅托梅医生”。然后 托梅搭线科洛尼公司的总裁 ,再后来 科洛尼公司老总巴拉克,鼓励杰克逊去巡演,以解决债务问题。巴拉克是AEG公司老板的老朋友!
不要离开我,”迈克尔当时哀求道,“他们要杀了我!”

“你吃饭了吗?”格利高里问。

“我不能吃东西,他们要毒死我,”迈克尔回答说。
这个..这个..心碎一地啊~~!
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Wherever you go, whatever you do, I will be right here waiting for you

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发表于 2014-7-31 13:11:57 | 显示全部楼层
MkGenie 发表于 2014-7-31 11:49
很明显不可以

之前的报道难道有误吗,遗产公司掌握的Neverland的股权有什么用?

遗产公司是有钱的,不明白为什么可以花1000万给小孩买住处,就不能再花2000多万买下Neverland。也不能只图是否赚钱,也应该继续MJ的意志。
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发表于 2014-7-31 13:25:18 | 显示全部楼层
歌迷们应该呼吁遗产买下来!
如果世界充满仇恨,我们仍要敢于憧憬;
如果世界充满愤怒,我们仍要敢于安慰;
如果世界充满绝望,我们仍要敢于梦想;
如果世界充满猜度,我们仍要敢于信任。

             _MICHAEL  JACKSON
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-7-31 13:31:58 | 显示全部楼层
爱尔兰春天 发表于 2014-7-31 13:11
之前的报道难道有误吗,遗产公司掌握的Neverland的股权有什么用?

遗产公司是有钱的,不明白为什么可以 ...

很有可能报道有误。因为细节没人知道。

而且遗产只是拥有股权,而科洛尼拥有股权和债权。还有协议。他们有权对梦幻庄园进行任何处置,一直都这样。这也是为什么MJ 私人物品在2009年就被科洛尼要求清空,托梅更差点全部卖掉。



遗产公司是有钱的,但为什么不买回来,肯定是有他们的道理的。不然他们这样做也没有道理。

遗产在声明里表示他们尽力商量过,但没有结果。

对方可能趁机叫价高,遗产才不上当。

其实买回来还要维持一个空房子的,费用惊人。那个地方偏远,不可能做任何商业开发,当地居民和政府也超级反对商业开发。所以纯粹烧钱。无论商人还是律师肯定觉得都不划算,还不如不要

对于为什么投资公司现在决定卖,我的想法是,

1、去过梦幻庄园的人都知道,那里离洛杉矶3个小时车程,是农村,非常远,不适合做商业开发(博物馆什么的没戏)

2、这么一大片房产,每年维护费几百万美元,投资公司把这么大块地闲置至今,纯粹烧钱,没有任何利益。

一两年前就有新闻说科洛尼在恢复NEVERLAND的景貌,为的就是出售。

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农村,非常远...哎~keen的解释也很有道理~MJ当初是为了完成自己的梦想,又想帮助孩子,现在不是每个人都会这样去做,考虑更多的是实际利益  发表于 2014-7-31 22:18
明知道沒可能,我愛造白日夢...暈..  发表于 2014-7-31 17:58
如果Neverland因為地方偏遠,不可能開發成博物館真可惜  发表于 2014-7-31 14:20
那警察局在另一區成博物館,因為想保存歷史一磚一瓦都用回舊有的  发表于 2014-7-31 14:16
突然這麼想是因為突然想起香港有個古舊警察局,就因為想保存所以搬遷到了另一區重建,  发表于 2014-7-31 14:11
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发表于 2014-7-31 13:36:52 | 显示全部楼层
真希望成龙大哥或者GAGA小姐给买下来,他们尊重MJ

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成龙大哥,,,某些方面,跟迈是极端。  发表于 2014-8-1 20:20
成龙大哥,,,,,成龙大哥确实出色,但感觉他比较复杂。 不适合。  发表于 2014-8-1 17:26
成龙.....根本没有0.00001的可能  发表于 2014-7-31 22:18
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发表于 2014-7-31 13:37:39 | 显示全部楼层
很悲伤的事情,只有卖掉这条路吗?那里面有他的气息、他的梦想、他的温暖,虽然也有心伤。
爱不曾远离,爱一直延续
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发表于 2014-7-31 13:40:12 | 显示全部楼层
是不早前聽說ga ga和Justin Bieber都想買,Lady ga ga買還好,我可不想JB買
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-7-31 13:40:49 | 显示全部楼层
yeechiulee 发表于 2014-7-31 13:40
是不早前聽說ga ga和Justin Bieber都想買,Lady ga ga買還好,我可不想JB買

传言而已。

谁知道呢。静观其变
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发表于 2014-7-31 14:12:46 | 显示全部楼层
以前还希望NEVERLAND可以变成博物馆之类的,现在看来纯属做梦。希望新的主人尽量可以维持原来的样子
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-7-31 14:19:23 | 显示全部楼层
梦幻庄园所在位置是农村,用地只能作农业用途,不能作商业用途(比如猫王的优雅园可作商业用途)。而且当地居民表示,这里住的人都是为了追求宁静,如果梦幻庄园被开发成博物馆游乐园那样,他们会不堪其扰,因此强烈反对。

根据这些文章看,在没有任何商业前景的情况下,连遗产都不想烧钱,投资公司只能选择出售。



From 2009 to show how hard and yes almost impossible to change zoning in the area of neverland

The possibility of a Jackson museum put Santa Barbara County Supervisor Doreen Farr, elected on a slow-growth platform, on the political hot seat, caught between music fans and her pro-green supporters. Speculation about a Jackson museum ignored one King Kong-sized if prosaic issue, however: zoning.

The ranch is five miles from the tiny wine tasting town of Los Olivos, where “Sideways” was filmed, out in the middle of fields and farms.

Santa Ynez Valley residents have spent the better part of a decade on a simple update of their existing community plan. After all that effort, and some riotous meetings, the final product is not much different from the prior plan, and it says that agriculture is ag, downtown is downtown, and never the twain shall meet.

The ranch formerly known as Neverland (the new owners call it Sycamore Valley Ranch) is zoned agricultural. Legally, it takes a Conditional Use Permit to apply for a commercial enterprise on ag land.

Brooks Firestone, the wealthy, connected former Assembly member and ex-Supervisor, who started Firestone Winery and is the scion of the tire fortune, abandoned an attempt to get a conditional use permit to hold weddings at his Foxen Canyon property near Neverland in 2008. The votes just weren’t there for it.

Tom Barrack, who bought Neverland for $35 million in November of 2008 through his company Colony Capital and lives nearby, was mauled by his Happy Canyon neighbors when he asked to open a winery recently. He eventually got approval to make wine, but easy public access was negotiated away.

Even affable octogenarian Fess Parker (Disney’s Daniel Boone, Davy Crockett and the dad in Old Yeller) was politically pummeled by locals when he wanted to plant a resort amid the vineyards in 2004. The Fess Fuss even made The Wall Street Journal.

In this vigilant valley, commerce and cows don’t mix, which is why Supervisor Farr said in an interview that protecting agriculture may trump any plans for a Michael Jackson museum.

http://www.calbuzz.com/2009/07/why-t...-at-neverland/

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They're vocal about liking the quiet

That's just what worries community activists behind Never!. The grassroots coalition, launched last week, opposes "all attempts, including creation of a burial site, to convert the beautiful and secluded former Neverland ranch into a commercial venue or Graceland-like tourist attraction."

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/story?i...inglePage=true

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But residents of Santa Ynez Valley have another name for the 2,676-acre spread: They call it NEVER!-land.

As in NEVER going to turn Jackson's famous home into a tourist attraction, a la Elvis Presley's Graceland. As in NEVER going to bury him there. As in it's NEVER going to happen.


The Jackson family and Neverland's owners would face large, perhaps insurmountable, obstacles to opening it as a shrine, including a burial controversy, legal wrangling over the estate and a community generally opposed to commercial development.

While the area of Memphis around Graceland already was zoned for commercial use, Neverland, near Los Olivos, is in agricultural country. It sits off a two-lane road with dirt shoulders. There's not a sewer system nearby, much less a hotel.

"This community has proven over and over again that they're equal-opportunity developer bashers," says William Etling, a real-estate agent in Santa Barbara County who also has written a book called Sideways in Neverland: Life in the Santa Ynez Valley.

"People live here for the peace and quiet, and they don't want the city following them," says Etling, pointing to well-known residents such as David Crosby, Bo Derek and John Forsythe.

The development debate

For the past decade, valley residents have haggled over a proposed community plan for land use and development that's expected to be approved this year.

"There is nothing like (a Neverland attraction) in that plan," says former Valley Planning Advisory Committee chairman Bob Field. "In fact, there are prohibitions sprinkled all through it."

According the Santa Barbara County Land Use & Development Code, any proposed project must "be compatible with the surrounding area" and its "rural and scenic character."

Interring Jackson on the grounds would require consent from state and county governments. Colony Capital investigated the possibility at the Jackson family's request but determined it would involve a complex approval process, says a source familiar with plans for the ranch who wasn't authorized to discuss them. The singer's final burial place hasn't been announced.

Field suspects a public Neverland would attract even more. "It's two hours away from L.A.," he says. "The weather's great year-round. I think you're looking at a million or two."

The influx would tax the infrastructure of the valley, which has a population of about 20,000. It would require changes not only to the road and sewer systems but probably police, fire and medical services. "It will trigger every possible impact in an environmental impact report," Field says.


Graceland opened nearly five years after Presley's death, when upkeep and taxes threatened to bankrupt the estate. A political battle over zoning and infrastructure in Santa Barbara County could take even longer.

"It would take five or 10 years," Field says. "And I wouldn't bet that it would get approved."

Taxes could be a killer

So if Neverland's owners can't turn it into a tourist destination, what options do they have? If they just sit on it, they pay annual property taxes of slightly more than $200,000. If they want to sell it, they might look to the nearby 3,250-acre Bar Go Ranch for comparison. The Bar Go is on the market for $33 million. But selling Neverland for residential use brings its own challenges; any new owner would have to contend with gawkers at the gates.

Etling suggests planting a vineyard and trying to get approval for a winery.

"Call it Michael Jackson Winery, plant some grapes, get a winery permit, have some exhibits," Etling says. "They could probably make that happen."


http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/...d-future_n.htm
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发表于 2014-7-31 14:23:46 | 显示全部楼层
Eternal Neverland, always in my heart, the only place in the world. Never change......
皮皮爱迈永无止境
精神不死,迈神永生

迈古超今,迈越常流

迈到永恒,迈向成功
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发表于 2014-7-31 14:31:29 | 显示全部楼层
Heart-breaking news! Neverland对于迈迷,如同麦加对于穆斯林,是精神寄托之圣所。Neverland代表迈克尔的全部,若真是换了主人没了原貌,实在是对迈迷精神上的大伤害。Neverland真是命运多舛,在商人眼里就是一块地!实在不想让迈克尔留下的神迹落入他人之手,失去原有的精神,湮没在时间里!

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对啊,歌迷当然希望无论怎么样,房子都尽量保存原貌。。。。。。。。。。。。 这情随事迁的变化,也许过去的美好只能成为回忆。。。。。。。。。。。。。  发表于 2014-8-1 17:29
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 楼主| 发表于 2014-7-31 14:37:03 | 显示全部楼层
yuyumissmichael 发表于 2014-7-31 14:31
Heart-breaking news! Neverland对于迈迷,如同麦加对于穆斯林,是精神寄托之圣所。Neverland代表迈克尔的全 ...

其实里面已经搬空了,就是一些空房子。

MJ的物品已被收入遗产仓库。
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发表于 2014-7-31 14:55:10 | 显示全部楼层
就这样吧.....没什么好说的了
I will always remember the time...
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过去的终将过去。
- 「I'm Humbled In Your Grace.」

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