[询问] mj 真唱还是假唱 @@@@

jally

你在跑步的时候能很流利地说话吗?不能吧!跳舞时气都快喘不过来了别说是很好地唱歌了!

GDN

就算是假唱，也难人可贵了看看我们国内的歌手，就是站在舞台上对嘴。。。

MJ已经在过去和现在在他的CD里面证明了他是世界上最好嗓音的男歌手 去年《COVE》杂志评选出乐坛嗓子最好最协调的男歌手,MJ是第一名 他还需要证明什么呢? 假唱, 我更宁愿说是对口型 是为了达到舞台演出的完美性(正符合MJ的完美主义) 此外,MJ演唱会的难度和压力,以及MJ的年龄,还有舞蹈的消耗体力,以及MJ还不时患病,如喉炎....... 都不可能让MJ全场真唱 不要去听那些在舞台上只拿着吉他,或坐在钢琴旁像木头一样真唱的歌手说瞎话. MJ的付出比他们多N倍！ 无论MJ采用什么样的手段和技术，都是为了最大程度地愉悦观众的视觉和听觉 如果都那么较真，那么现在电影里那些特技场面也就都不要用了，那时看各位还会有多愉悦。

[此贴子已经被作者于2004-10-28 10:53:33编辑过]

robocop

考虑到他假唱时的年龄，没必要这么苛求吧

allenkids

不要去听那些在舞台上只拿着吉他,或坐在钢琴旁像木头一样真唱的歌手说瞎话.

听到Keen说这句话，突然想起，某些歌手，连坐得像木头的时候都是假唱滴LOL，比如亲爱的麦当娜大姐。其实AK对于假唱的态度还是比较宽容的，像MC或者CD有时候那样，用一个现场录音版本来混自己的现场，防止某些地方唱破~~~~我完全可以接受。特烦的是某些艺人，就站在那里晃两下，抱着话筒连口型都对不上，歌词都忘了的，实在太不敬业了。

lavaflow

以下是引用allenkids在2004-10-31 13:27:47的发言： 听到Keen说这句话，突然想起，某些歌手，连坐得像木头的时候都是假唱滴LOL，比如亲爱的麦当娜大姐。 其实AK对于假唱的态度还是比较宽容的，像MC或者CD有时候那样，用一个现场录音版本来混自己的现场，防止某些地方唱破~~~~我完全可以接受。 特烦的是某些艺人，就站在那里晃两下，抱着话筒连口型都对不上，歌词都忘了的，实在太不敬业了。

你是说MADONNA的2001沉沦演唱会吗？里面坐着边弹吉他边唱的那些？倒真没看出来。嘴型对的那么好？ MJ只要是假唱，就很紧张的老拿手去碰那个耳麦。其实大可不必。本来人家到不留意的，他老这样不自然，人家到反而注意了。

以下是引用lavaflow在2004-10-31 21:19:31的发言： > 你是说MADONNA的2001沉沦演唱会吗？里面坐着边弹吉他边唱的那些？倒真没看出来。嘴型对的那么好？ MJ只要是假唱，就很紧张的老拿手去碰那个耳麦。其实大可不必。本来人家到不留意的，他老这样不自然，人家到反而注意了。

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想起ELTON JOHN前段时间还炮轰MADONNA“什么，假唱也能得到最佳表演提名？！”搞的MADONNA好没面子

有人还画了张“MADONNA反击ELTON JOHN”的图，笑死我了：

MJ最帅

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《纽约日报》正好发了一篇关于对口型问题的文章，大家可参考一下：By JIM FARBER New York Daily NewsSmirk if you will over Ashlee Simpson's vocal malfunction on "Saturday Night Live," but nearly everybody's getting some performance-enhancing help."The most scandalous aspect of this isn't that one person got caught," says Spin Magazine's Dave Itzkoff of Simpson's flubbed attempt at lip-syncing -- after, she says, losing her voice to bad acid reflux. "It's the fact that it's so commonly used in pop today."In fact, performers from all genres -even among the sacred cows of classic rock -- use various devices that do for music what Tuna Helper does for dinner. Stars have a full lazy Susan of cheating techniques at their disposal, from simple "guide vocal" tracks to complete backing tapes.In many genres, fans rarely expect performers to show up with real bands. Disco divas, R&B singers and rappers often perform what they call "track dates" at clubs. At such events, the star applies a live vocal to music that's wholly on tape -- like highclass karaoke.Often the reason is economic. Why pay to bring a full group on tour when you're going to play only a few numbers for a quickie promo in a club?Hip-hop acts excuse their frugality with history. Since the form began with emcees rapping over recordings, the spare sight of performers with just a deejay -- even when employed by acts as esteemed as Outkast -- reads less as heresy than tradition.In the world of video-driven pop stars -from Janet Jackson to Britney Spears -it's a given that the performers can't sing and dance hard at the same time. Earlier this month at an awards show, Elton John ridiculed Madonna for cheating her fans by lip-syncing during "live" shows.What's less commonly discussed, or accepted, is the rash of enhancements used at rock shows. Even a group as respected as U2 clearly needs synthetic help to boost its three spare musicians. As Rolling Stone editor Joe Levy explains, "When bands go on tour, they often use anything from an added rhythm track to a keyboard player hidden under the stage. The drummer can trigger samples from his drum kit, the guitarist can hit a pedal that adds a guitar part."It's real Wizard of Oz stuff."Levy says this occurs because "people still want to hear something live that sounds like the record. Plenty of rock bands overdub 15 guitar parts in the studio to get that massive sound. Just three guys onstage couldn't (do it)."One major music publicist blames "the increasing demands on artists. The more radio shows and interviews that are shoehorned into their schedules, the less their voices can hit those `money' high notes."But does it really matter to fans?Industry types are self-conscious enough about this issue that no one from MTV or most record companies would speak about it on the record. Itzkoff says Simpson-gate could scar the singer since she's trying to sell herself as a singer-songwriter.But Levy believes music fans should grow up on this issue."If people are shocked and disappointed by this, they ought to get a look at what the girls in Playboy look like before they airbrush them," he says."All entertainment involves some kind of enhancement." MUSIC TERMS Here are just three of the sonic cheat sheets available to modern pop stars:GUIDE VOCAL: A prerecorded singing track performers use to make their live vocals sound fuller -- and to help keep them on pitch. See: Ashlee Simpson.TRACK DATE: A club or instore appearance in which the star sings live to his or her record.BACKING TAPES: Anything, including an added rhythm track, backing vocal, sonic hook or guitar part, recorded to help live musicians better re-create the sound of a multitrack studio production. 谁有空可翻译翻译

allenkids

关于Madonna的问题2001Drawned World Tour DVD AK专门又看了一遍对口型对得很出色~~~~吉他假弹得很次麦大姐既不会唱歌，又不会跳舞，但是不妨碍她成为世界顶级的流行艺人

lavaflow

以下是引用allenkids在2004-11-1 14:32:09的发言： 关于Madonna的问题 2001Drawned World Tour DVD AK专门又看了一遍 对口型对得很出色~~~~吉他假弹得很次 麦大姐既不会唱歌，又不会跳舞，但是不妨碍她成为世界顶级的流行艺人

嘿！这人。我还以她去学了呢。 不过她跳舞蛮不错啦。她年轻时候不是跳芭蕾舞还拿过奖学金嘛。

Mike

以下是引用allenkids在2004-11-1 14:32:09的发言： 麦大姐既不会唱歌，又不会跳舞，但是不妨碍她成为世界顶级的流行艺人

恰好证明流行趋势大多时候都是病态的 她确实不会跳舞（看她跳舞还不如看Axl扭），歌手就没几个会跳舞的

Mike

真唱假唱曲目我可以列个list真唱：J5和The Jacksons时期所有表演（无论集体还是单独），以及79年后乐队在一起的所有表演都是真唱81年与Diana Ross在某处表演是真唱83年在James Brown某晚会表演是真唱BAD Tour 87 100%真唱BAD Tour 88 90%真唱（假唱的列在下面假唱曲目里）89年表演You were there真唱危险排练全是真唱（废话~）危险巡演中Wanna be startin' somethin',Human Nature,I just can's stop loving you,She's out of my life,J5 Medley,Billie Jean,Workin' day and night,Beat it是真唱93年克林顿就职典礼表演是真唱96年文莱演唱会Wanna be startin' somethin',Human Nature,I just can's stop loving you,She's out of my life,J5 Medley,Billie Jean,Beat it是真唱历史巡演中Wanna be startin' somethin',J5 Medley是真唱97年表演Elizabeth,I love you是真唱2001年表演What more can I give真唱没了假唱：Motown 25 Billie Jean（这个应该是最早的了）Grammy 88 The way you make me feel假唱91年MTV 10周年表演92年有个什么颁奖晚会表演BOW假唱危险巡演中Jam,Smooth Criminal,Thriller,Black or White（有例外）,Will you be there,Heal the world,Dangerous是假唱93年Superbowl假唱93年AMA假唱93年灵魂列车假唱95年MTV Award假唱95年Wetten Dass假唱96年摩纳哥世界音乐奖假唱96年Brit Award假唱96年还有个什么颁奖晚会假唱96年文莱演唱会中Jam,Smooth Criminal,Thriller,Black or White,The way you make me feel,Dangerous假唱历史演唱会中开场三首，Stranger in Moscow,You are not alone,The way you make me feel,D.S,Come Together,Blood on the dance floor,Dangerous,Black or White,Thriller,Billie Jean,Beat it,Heal the world,History都是假唱99年慈善演唱会是假唱30周年演唱会假唱最后是半假唱的：所有的Man in the mirror都是半假唱，大概到Oh,oh,oh,oh,oh,oh,oh,oh no之后开始真唱BAD Tour 88中Smooth Criminal从I don't know这句开始真唱危险巡演中BAD从介绍乐队开始真唱慕尼黑危险演唱会中BOW真唱了几句所有的Earth Song表演都会在结尾真唱几句所有Billie Jean最后一句都是真唱You are not alone也可能在结尾真唱几句2002年Dangerous真唱了几句