发现结尾字幕用的两首heal the world和human nature是迈迈本次彩排的现场真唱

o2maple

我重新研究了下，
从高潮的If you care enough for the living开始对口型的
因为后面有伴唱，真唱不足的地方也可以盖上
不解释了
我已经按照演唱会的效果重新混缩了
需要的自己对比去
对于上面的回复不加以评论了。。。
http://www.rayfile.com/files/ec7 ... -8a3b-0014221b798a/

深爱小飞侠

117# cheerup


顿悟啊······

yumin

对于我们大多数非音乐专业领域的迈迷们来说, 听MJ的歌看他的演唱会录像时感受到震撼和战栗, 读有关他的文字时我们再次感受到震撼和战栗, 我们因爱他而思考而改变而行动, 从而使自己变成更美好的人, 这就足够了.感谢MJ, 我们永远爱他.

1958-2009

mjchris1這個人也太偏激了，說的好像MJ不會真唱似的，
並不是你說的就是對的，你又不是幕後製作的人，更不是在現場的人，
而且MJ真唱的片段不是像你說的那麼少。
很多討論MJ以前演唱會真唱與否的言論也很有誇大的成份，
誰能真正說出100%正確？
MJ危險和歷史巡演不是只有一場，而是幾十場，
有些場次確實他狀況很差的時候，只真唱了固定真唱的曲目，
（這些狀況比較差的場次，就變成所有謠傳他全是对口型，但並不是每一場都是這樣，
這一點才是重要，別把每一場都視為同一場）
狀況好的時候，他也會增加真唱曲目的，並不是像你所認定的那麼不濟，
當年歷史巡演的時候，針對真唱這個問題，MJ官方曾說過，
除了固定真唱的曲目外，他每一場會針對狀況不同輪換真唱曲目，
而危險巡演的第一回合，他幾乎全是真唱，
但隨著說他对口型的人太多，有時連他真唱的片段，也被人說成对口型，
只是因為有人不肯相信MJ唱現場能和他唱片一樣好，
聽聽50歲的MJ現場唱human nature，他就是能有像唱片一樣的實力，
甚至有時他的現場版本比唱片還好！
很多討論到MJ現場唱的問題，與其說是在討論，還不如說在完全否定MJ唱現場的實力，
有時連真唱的部份，也會出現有人拿來質疑，
就像有人提到電影裏的I just can't stop loving you，
連這首都還有人會質疑，這首還是化妝師唯二說MJ完整唱完其中一首呢！

郭郭妹

我也覺得 MJ後期的歌聲~已經到達完美的境界!!!!~~~~無可挑剔了 ....

我也覺得那兩首是現場真唱吧!!!~~~~~~~

nitrogen

大部分是真唱
有几首对口型, thriller, beat.

nitrogen

这次和human nature 给我很惊艳的感觉.

火火

嗯??怎麼mjchris1的回覆全部沒了??

http://www.contactmusic.com/news ... ld-material_1122499


JACKSON MOVIE USES OLD MATERIAL


MICHAEL JACKSON's vocal on concert rehearsal movie THIS IS IT has been enhanced by old recordings of his songs.

The film, which features footage of the King Of Pop practising for his ill-fated comeback shows, has taken more than $200 million (£125 million) at the worldwide box office.

Music experts claim Jackson's strong singing is down to clever editing, with former BBC senior studio manager Andrew Rose insisting footage of the Thriller icon belting out Earth Song is fake.

He says the performance vocal has been lifted from a demo available on YouTube.com, adding: "Throughout the film sudden changes in vocal timbre suggest the dropping in of older recordings which may have required significant digital manipulation to fit the new live backing."

And now bosses at Sony Pictures, who produced the picture, admit they were forced to use old Jackson performances to aid the sound quality of the footage.

Spokesman Jim Kennedy says, "In order to fulfil Michael's vision for his fans and his children... the filmmakers had to incorporate some pre-existing materials, including vocals, where the rehearsal footage audio was incomplete and/or inaudible.
"In addition, usage of master recordings (such as Earth Song) was credited in the end titles."

杰克逊的电影使用旧材料

迈克尔杰克逊在演唱会彩排电影This Is It中的歌唱部份是运用了其过去的录音来进行美化。

这部电影是以流行音乐之王为其命运多舛的复出表演的彩排片段为特色，在全球票房超过已取得超过2亿美元（一亿二千五万英镑）。

音乐专家称，杰克逊气势强劲的歌唱归功于聪明的剪辑，前BBC高级制作室经理Andrew Rose坚持这位颤栗者偶像扯开嗓子高唱Earth Song的片段是假装出来的。

他说该段表演的声音是使用了一段在YouTube.com也可以找到的demo，并说：“在整个电影中音色不断的突然改变都暗示使用了以前的录音，这可能需要大量的数字合成以适应新的现场伴奏。”

负责制作影片的索尼电影现任老板也承认，他们不得不使用杰克逊旧日的表演来援助画面的声音质量。

发言人Jim Kennedy说，“为了实现Michael为他的fans和他的孩子的构思...当彩排画面的录音不完整或难以听到时，制片人不得不加入一些已有的材料，包括声乐。

“此外，使用了母带的歌曲（如Earth Song）会显示在片尾字幕上。”

如果這段報導是真的，大家去看一下字幕就可以知道哪首歌是全live哪首不是。其實sony有很多MJ的錄音，ES demo那些是已流傳出來的，沒流出來那些不知有多少，他們要找一段歌迷沒聽過的演繹實在太容易了。

OMG，幾首快歌我一直覺得在電影中MJ唱得太好了(不是IJCSLY和HN)而不肯相信他是全live的，居然都．．．．真令人傷心．．．

nitrogen

看最后的字幕能知道哪首歌用了母带.

～薇拉～

大家别忘了这是彩排，据电影摄影师说，他没有重视彩排录像工作，以为是普通工作录像，没想过以后会拍成电影，所以没调用足够的摄影器材，之后为了赶进度制作才后悔没有好好录影。
这说明当时没有采取最好的器材录制，大家看到摄影角度不是那么好，音响效果的修复也是必须的。而且这不是最后彩排，有的歌没上妆，大家在一起配合看效果好调整，所以没有必要尽全力。
不是对口型的问题，而是电影做出来之后需要修补，就像楼上说的，录的不清楚或迈没唱的地方用录音补上。迈在现场根本没必要对口型，彩排还对什么口型，这是技术层面的问题，现场舞伴的反应多兴奋，迈的表演依然魅力四射，做修补是为了把剪开的画面配上完整清晰的歌曲，是为了观众，和迈的实力没有太大关系。
回头去研究一下字幕。

nitrogen

同意楼上的同学. 不必纠结这个.

～薇拉～

本人在被楼上签名搞得魂飞魄散的情况下把片尾音乐部分字幕打上来。
红字部分是应用原始母带的歌曲。


Music



"Wanna Be Startin' Something"
written and performed by Michael Jackson


"Speechless"
written and performed by Michael Jackson



"Bad"
written and performed by Michael Jackson
Original master excerpt courtesy of MJJ Productions/Epic Records
By arrangement with Sony MUsic Entertainment

"Smooth Criminal"
written and performed by Michael Jackson
Original master excerpt coutresy of MJJ Productions/Epic Records
By arrangement with Sony MUsic Entertainment


"Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough "
written and performed by Michael Jackson
Original master excerpt courtesy of MJJ Productions/Epic Records
By arrangement with Sony MUsic Entertainment


"Jam"
Written by Michael Jackson, REne MOore, Bruce Swedien and Teddy Riley
Performed by Michael Jackson
Original master excerpt courtesy of MJJ Productions/Epic Records
By arrangement with Sony MUsic Entertainment


"They Don't Care About Us"
written and performed by Michael Jackson



"History"
Written by Michael Jackson, James Harris III and Terry Lewis
Peformed by Michael Jackson
Original master excerpt courtesy of MJJ Productions/Epic Records
By arrangement with Sony MUsic Entertainment


"Human Nuture"
Written by Steve Porcaro and John Bettis
Performed by Michael Jackson


"Put The Blame On Mame"
Written by Doris Fisher and Alan Roberts
Performed by Rita Hayworth
Courtesy of Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc.
Under license from Sony Pictures MUsic GRoup


"I Hadn't Anyone Til You"
Written by Ray Noble
Pefformed by Hadda Brooks
Courtesy of Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc.
Under license from Sony Pictures MUsic GRoup


"The Way You Make Me Feel"
Written and Performed by Michael Jackson

"I'll Be There"
W'tritten by
Hal Davis, Berry Gordy,Jr, Bob West and Willie Hutch
Performed by Michael Jackson
Original master excerpt Performed by Jackson 5
Courtesy of Motown Records
Under license from Unversal MUsic Enterprises

"I Want You Back"
Written by
Freddic Perren, Alphonso Mizell, Berry Gordy,Jr
and Deke Richards
Prformed by Michael Jackson

"Shake YOur Body(Down to the Ground)"
Written by MIchael Jackson and Randy Jackson
Performed by Michael Jackson

"The Love You Save"
Written by  Freddie Perren, Alphonso Mizell,
Berry Gordy,Jr, and Deke Richards
Performed by Michael Jackson

"Thriller"
Written by Rod Temperton
performed by Michael Jackson
Fearuring rap voiceover by Vincent Price
Original master excerpt courtesy of MJJ Productions/Epic Records
By arrangement with Sony MUsic Entertanment


"I just Can't Stop Loving You"
Written and Proformed by Michael Jackson


"Ghosts_Underscore"
Written by Nicholas Pike
Courtesy of Optimum Procuctions

"Who Is It"
Written and Performed by Michael Jackson

"Threatened"
Written by Michael Jackson .Todney Jerkins, Fred Jerkins III
and Lashawn Daniels
Performed by Michael Jackson

"Beat It"
Written and Performed by Michael Jackson


"Earth Song"
Written and Performed by Michael Jackson
Original master excerpt courtesy of MJJ Productions/Epic Records
By arrangement with Sony MUsic Entertainment


"Black or White"
Written and performed by Michael Jackson
Rap Lyrics by Bill Bottrell
"Intro" Composed by Bill Bottrell


"Man in The Mirror"
Written by Glen Ballard and SieDah Garrett
Performed by Michael Jackson

"Billie Jean"
Written and Performed by Michael Jackson


"This Is It"
Written by Michael Jackson and Paul Anks
Performed by Michael Jackson
Additional Vocals by The Jacksons
Courtesy of MJJ Productions/Epic Records/Paul Anka Productions
by arrangement with sony music entertainment


"Heal The World"
Written and Performed by Michael Jackson
Original master excerpt courtesy of MJJ Productions/Epic Records
By arrangement with Sony MUsic Entertainment

lupus

顶楼上！辛苦了
有字幕有真相 哈哈

mylove0915

HUMAN NATURE是真唱

rongmj

本人在被楼上签名搞得魂飞魄散的情况下把片尾音乐部分字幕打上来。
红字部分是应用原始母带的歌曲。


Music



"Wanna Be Startin' Something"
written and performed by Michael Jackson


"Speechles ...
～薇拉～ 发表于 2009-12-31 12:27

照这样说，Billy jean 是现场唱了？哇。实在是太惊艳了，我觉得TII里的Bj 比任何一次声音都要好啊，美极了