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说说MJ某些让我受不了的皱眉的地方

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发表于 2010-4-28 00:29:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 sean.lele.chang 于 2010-4-28 00:30 编辑
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Tell you the truth, I never read those posts in Q&A myself, I can not  ...
alextoalex 发表于 2010-4-27 09:42



Please see the 606th floor. They deleted the thread. I often cite things out of my memory, which is superb in general but it doesn't mean is always correct. But if people always ask me to find the exact link, I am out :) I am not good at finding things as my memory is set very selectively.

Tell you more details about that thread. (Please feel free to correct me if my recollection is inaccurate in any way!). Someone asked what happened to MJ's nose during the 30th Anniversary Concert. The answer is that he did some repair work on his nose, raising it up and cutting a nerve between his nose and lips. That's why his face looked a little bit rigid. Later on, his nose was moved down to its original place and things went back to normal. According to Keen, the answer was provided by CeSsy (I hope I spelled her ID correctly :), Ba1 Gua4 Goddess. He only knew the nose work but nothing about cutting nerves. This might be the reason they deleted the answer (the nerve part perhaps).

In another thread, I remember that someone else asked Keen about MJ's plastic surgery. Keen said that MJ only did on his nose and later years minor repair works done on his nose. Again, you can't count on me to find that thread for you. It was buried in a chat or Keen's interview (Flying High section, MAYBE).

In my opinion, asking you to provide evidence to defend your opinion on his nose job is a joke to begin with. There will ALWAYS be people coming back and telling you that what you said is wrong because MJ didn't say it!!! What is hard core evidence anyway??? In quite a lot of people's eyes here, anything bad about MJ is not hard core evidence; they would be categorized as tabloids' rumors or his enemies' on-purpose negative comments. Come on, give me a break!!! Didn't someone even told you that the reason his nose looked different is because he lost weight?? That is the most hilarious joke I ever heard in my life!!! Didn't they know anything about human body??

Do I feel bothered by his repetitive nose work?? Yes, because his nose looks unnatural to me.

Do I really care about it?? Not really. As long as he doesn't harm others and he doesn't care what other people think, why should I??

Do I have to intentionally cover it up or bring it up?? No, if he had the guts to do it and showed it to the world, I don't think that I have the obligation to do either.

My bottom line is that his nose work doesn't bother me as much as he told a lie especially when everyone else (excluding some of his fans) could tell that he told a lie!!! (I didn't mean that telling a white lie is a crime. But if everyone else knew it, why did he want to tell it to begin with??) And I feel no responsibility to defend for his mistake even I do like and respect him.

Alex, as I told you before, please let it go and find the peace and happiness somewhere else. You don't gain much from this discussion anyway. Some people attacked you to spread a rumor. You know you didn't and most people in the world know it too. You can't convince everyone to share your opinion. Now this discussion is far from your original intention. So be it!

Guai1!!!
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发表于 2010-4-28 00:43:46 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 nitrogen 于 2010-4-27 11:45 编辑

我现在看贴子,更喜欢看是哪个ID发的言,如果是感兴趣的人,我会追着看,甚至找以前的帖子看。有些即使往往和我观点不一样的,我也喜欢看。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-4-28 00:45:21 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 alextoalex 于 2010-4-28 00:53 编辑

回复 607# sean.lele.chang


   
My bottom line is that his nose work doesn't bother me as much as he told a lie especially when everyone else (excluding some of his fans) could tell that he told a lie!!! (I didn't mean that telling a white lie is a crime. But if everyone else knew it, why did he want to tell it to begin with??) And I feel no responsibility to defend for his mistake even I do like and respect him.


Can't agree with you more.

PS: 梦舞 sent me a message the other day requesting me to respond to that post, I did that for the sake of respect to the authority of this forum and to her , I really did not care about those objections, those don't bother me any more.
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发表于 2010-4-28 00:54:37 | 显示全部楼层

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本帖最后由 littlefat00 于 2010-4-28 01:05 编辑
Please see the 606th floor. They deleted the thread. I often cite things out of my memory, whi ...
sean.lele.chang 发表于 2010-4-28 00:29

    please read the 79th floor here:
http://www.mjjcn.com/mjjcnforum/viewthread.php?tid=109632&extra=&page=6
    that's why they deleted the answer……we'll never understand  something in his life if he didn't want us to know…… life is really hard:(
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发表于 2010-4-28 00:56:54 | 显示全部楼层
LS两位牛X  在充满汉字的论坛里 全英文对话

不过额是支持LZ观点滴 一向 从来
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发表于 2010-4-28 02:37:37 | 显示全部楼层
please read the 79th floor here:
http://www.mjjcn.com/mjjcnforum/viewthread.php?tid=109632&ex ...
littlefat00 发表于 2010-4-28 00:54



    Thanks for the info. Again, this is something circulating from mouth to mouth and can never be verified according to the critical standard here. But since this is to MJ's benefits, it would be treated as truth by default. I didn't mean that it is not truth. I am just saying some people took for granted for many things: everything good about MJ is true, and anything bad about MJ is false, all by default. In the end, we all choose to believe what we would like to believe in. I respect people's choice to believe that MJ is a God, or the closest to God. In return, these people should also respect others that choose not to believe that.
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发表于 2010-4-28 02:48:57 | 显示全部楼层
回复  sean.lele.chang


   

Can't agree with you more.

PS: 梦舞 sent me a message the oth ...
alextoalex 发表于 2010-4-28 00:45


That's why I said that you are still a Guai1 kid :)

Alex, you always told me that you wouldn't be the second Dora because you don't love MJ as much as she does, which is true. But I still have to say that you devote a lot more emotions to him than I do. I know that you can balance it well yourself. Just don't let a supposed enjoyable experience become a burden to you!

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-4-28 03:46:59 | 显示全部楼层
回复 613# sean.lele.chang

You are so sweet, Sean. Thanks for your comfort. I am enjoying the forum very much, that why I keep coming back here. I like to share my thought with you guys, even arguing with someone is quite fun to me. Besides, I have other hobbies and I am quite well now. I started to listen to NPR and other music again this month. OMG, I did not realized how much I missed the Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me and Car Talk, they always make me laugh (for the past year the only thins on my ipod are MJ's songs, quite pathetic, am I?)

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i dont think its pathetic. maybe you feel you are too cool to listen only to MJ, sigh  发表于 2011-1-7 02:31
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发表于 2010-4-28 04:21:59 | 显示全部楼层
还真没看出来鼻子有啥变化。
样貌确实有变化,不过也正常,我爸30岁跟50岁的区别也大了去了。
花痴一下,真喜欢迈以前的小卷发
じò ぴé lives ╄→ 4ever...
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发表于 2010-4-28 06:50:02 | 显示全部楼层
回复  sean.lele.chang

You are so sweet, Sean. Thanks for your comfort. I am enjoying the forum v ...
alextoalex 发表于 2010-4-28 03:46



    Ever since I moved, I haven't listened to NPR at all. I missed it a lot.

quietly tell you a secret: I am very low tech. Somebody gave me an iPod shuffle as a gift years ago and I still haven't found time to figure out how to use it. mp3, mp4 are only names to me. Even my parents-in-law are more advanced than I am :)
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-4-28 07:38:03 | 显示全部楼层
回复 616# sean.lele.chang

Oh, Sean, there are many podcasts on ITune are really outstanding, I am a little bit addicted to them now. Besides NPR programs, many others are terrific also,  the ones I like the best are Radio Lab, This American Life, Weekend puzzles, Hardcore History, Common Sense, Stuff you missed in history class, New York Time book review, etc.   I strongly encourage you dig out your ipod or get a new one (I love my Ipod Touch), and learn how to use it, it is really a lot of fun.
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发表于 2010-4-28 10:06:32 | 显示全部楼层
回复 1# alextoalex

     你说的问题我虽然不能完全赞同,但也绝对不拍你。你打的比喻还是很好的。是的,犹如热恋中的人,眼中恋人是完美的,但实际上人不可能完美。我也不想把迈神话,毕竟我爱的是迈这个真正的人,男人。既然是来讨论的那就在送你一句话,来表达我的看法,古人说:人无癖不可与交,以其无深情也;人无痴不可与交,以其无真气也。因迈的完美我爱他,他的内心是纯粹的;因他的不完美我爱他,他是有血有肉的人。
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发表于 2010-4-28 13:07:41 | 显示全部楼层
感觉MJ 就像放在显微镜下被观察般,大家用挑剔的目光自己夸夸其谈的去评价他的着装行为这些外在的东西。却忽略了我们应该研究他的音乐,人品,精神这些美好的内在的东西。大家究竟是什么原因才聚在这里的呢?
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发表于 2010-4-28 14:40:38 | 显示全部楼层
回复 486# featscar
   有图片么?发张看看。没有印象啦!谢谢
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发表于 2010-4-28 14:54:00 | 显示全部楼层
"当然你可以说MJ这么做有他的理由,但是MJ不愿意说不等于人们不会这么去想,你没办法规定人们的想法。既然大家喜欢用照片对比,我也拿两张照片来比比。我没有用摄影师的照片,因为他们一般会修片,去掉一些脸上的瑕疵,没什么可对比性。那就找两张新闻照片看看..."
建议自以为是的自说自话的LZ赶紧去太阳报应征狗仔队,它们急需你这样的人才,只要你保持现有的灵敏的嗅觉,一定能整个满盆满钵的!----后续:乍一看文章开头,我以为那位巴适尔学会打汉字了呢!
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