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发表于 2010-10-21 23:40:21 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 飞扬清婉 于 2010-10-21 23:42 编辑
ganibu 发表于 2010-10-21 23:26
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现在哪里还有什么新人!他的歌迷只在减少,都没在增加鸟.除非又有什么关于他惊天 ...


也许你需要回溯到童年,去看一下你的问题究竟出在哪里?

你这样做不能解决你自己的问题,只是一种逃避或短暂的麻痹,过后仍然要面对灰暗的真实生活,那只会更感空虚与无力。

在网络上乐此不疲地扮演不同的角色,通过一些不合常规的方式,挑起别人的注意,以发现或肯定自己存在的意义。这不是一个好的方式,也根本不是解决问题的方式。

你的生活有那么糟吗?还是你曾经的伤害让你真的无法面对?

你得相信这个世界上有美好的东西,并且你能通过自己的努力让你自己的生活变好。

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说得对,就是这样,觉得TA应该找个时间好好地为自己反思一下,人偶尔反省一下,有益身心  发表于 2010-10-22 00:02
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还能第三次见到DORA。。有趣有趣~~~

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好奇的想知道第2次是什么时候。  发表于 2010-10-22 00:33
离开一段时间,静心等候,Keep the faith。我会想你们的。
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发表于 2010-10-22 00:06:50 | 显示全部楼层
正在播出

some updates

http://www.lipstickalley.com/f227/li...5/index12.html


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Oprah's "questions" aren't questions. She says "You were manipulated, weren't you?" And Lisa says something incoherent.

Oprah asks "Did you turn a blind eye to the drugs?" And Lisa says that she didn't realize that he had a drug problem until his collapse.

I'll just write what I hear now:

Pressure to have a baby, Lisa did want to have a baby (but thinking about the future and didn't want to have a bad custody battle). Which, I say, is strange to be thinking about that if you just admitted that you thought you would be married for life. Also, why aren't you talking about the people in your ear, aka your mom and scientologists, who were telling what to do and think and about future custody battles.

Thank you, Lisa for saying that she had done bad things!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! She left her husband for Michael. While she was with Mike, she hadn't processed what happened. Mike was angry because she would go on vacations with her ex-husband and would always have him around, then he would be angry. If you did him wrong, he iced you out.

He tried so hard. "He really fought hard for me and gave it a good shot and I didn't appreciate it at the time." But then she slyly says that Mike had never done it was another woman before or since. This bitch is really trying to set herself up as Mike one and true love and his widow. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! !!!!  

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He did have to die in order for Lisa to understand that he loved her.

Drugs and doctors came in and that's why Lisa left. Good, she admitted that they were together for 4 more years after the divorce!!!!!

Lisa said that she made a stupid move by giving

2005, last time that they spoke. Lisa was very detached to him when he was trying to talking to him about how she was right about some of the things that she had said years earlier about some of the bad people in his life. He said that it was clear that there were people out to get him and try to kill him and take his catalog and his estate and at the time, she didn't know what to make of it. He asked her if she still loved him and she said that she was indifferent and he was angry and said how can you be indifferent to someone who once loved and he started crying. ANd he named names as to who he thought wanted to kill him. SO, Lisa knows a lot.

Now, this is the most interesting part of the interview, imo. Of course, Oprah glosses over it and there's a commerical break.  

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Lisa says that she never saw anything happened between Mike and kids.

She also said that Martin Bashir was evil and edited the interview in a nasty way.

She said that she was the last one standing with Mike, standing over the casket. There's a picture of her standing in front of the casket. Why take a photograph? Thought she was private?

Lisa said that she wanted to apologize for not being around. She regrets that she didn't even call him and shut him out.

She still feels guilty. She still loves him. Her current husband is f*cked.  

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Oh snap. Oprah just asks Lisa how her current husband feels? He says that he is glad when the interview is over because she can exorcise it from her system. And that he is so understanding and realzes that she is still going through this.

She feels like she is alone and honored that she got through her father and Mike.

Lisa says that she is never going to talk about this again and that she only did it once and it's the Oprah Winfrey show. Oprah is very smart. Soldifling Mike's and Lisa's "legacy" in history now if Lisa never speaks about it again. I wonder how much money Oprah paid Lisa for this because Lisa's ass is broke.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

It wasn't all bad.

She admitted that she broke up her first family, Mike was angry because she had her ex around and so he did things in retaliation, she was with Mike for 4 years after the divorce, Mike was an amazing person, she was addicted to him like a drug and her highest high in her entire life was being next him, she knows who Mike thought was conspiring to kill him and take his estate and catalog, she shut him out when he tried to talk to her in 2005, she said that she divorced him on a dare and she regrets doing that.

Um, that's it, I think. Everything else is bullshit. Lots of comparisons between Elvis and Mike. Lisa and Oprah trying to make her the widow and Mike's only true love. She says she is private but then, says that she was the last one over his casket and she was asking him to forgive her for abandoning him. And of course, there is a picture of her doing so. So much for privacy, right? Lisa doesn't go into real detail about the baby issue but it was clear to me that she felt jealous. She admitted that she loved being with him, as a unit, together. Never mentioned anything about family, just them as a unit. So she told on herself again.

I feel bad for Mike. I think that he loved her a lot (she said that they would fight for days at a time and only sleep and eat and if Mike had a problem, he would wake her up in the middle of the night and talk to her about it) and she betrayed him with her game playing and testing (like the divorce when she really didn't want to get one) and I can see how he hardened his heart to her. Even in 2005, she was unsympathetic to him and that was the last time they supposedly spoke.  
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发表于 2010-10-22 00:07:18 | 显示全部楼层
Tidbits from the interview...

LM says she wants to get all the personal stuff out now, because when she releases the album she is working on for 2011 release, she will ONLY discuss the album and not personal info.
Says she was defensive in past interviews about MJ. All her bitterness and indifference toward him faded when he died. Gained clarity.
She says she knows he really loved her and she really loved him.
It was a real marriage in every sense of the word.
He was an incredible person. She had never felt so high in her life as when with him.
She saw absolutely nothing inappropriate with children.
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发表于 2010-10-22 00:11:15 | 显示全部楼层
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现在哪里还有什么新人!他的歌迷只在减少,都没在增加鸟.除非又有什么关于他惊天 ...

他的歌迷绝对是在增加,而不是在减少。

减少的不过是凑热闹之徒

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老K的话舒服极了!  发表于 2010-10-22 09:30
很爽的话  发表于 2010-10-22 09:01
鼓掌!  发表于 2010-10-22 00:19
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发表于 2010-10-22 00:11:30 | 显示全部楼层
播出了,英文看的俺好辛苦,谁辛苦一下那个。。
翻遍了我整本字典,找不出可以用来形容你的文字,你超越了人生的真实,也预示了这个世界不配拥有你
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发表于 2010-10-22 00:29:13 | 显示全部楼层
MkGenie 发表于 2010-10-22 00:07
Tidbits from the interview...

LM says she wants to get all the personal stuff out now, because wh ...

LISA说她在以前关于MJ的采访里很防备。但MJ死后,她所有对他的苦涩和冷漠都消退。她说她知道他真的爱她,而她也真的爱他。他们的婚姻是真实的。她说他是一个不可思议的人,当和他在一起的时候,她才有high的感觉。她同时表示她没看见过MJ和孩子们有任何不恰当的关系。

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读完了,觉得他她他她他神马的句式,念起来还蛮顺口的的说。。...  发表于 2010-10-22 00:37
keen这么多个他她他她的看的我眼花+缭乱。  发表于 2010-10-22 00:35
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发表于 2010-10-22 00:32:58 | 显示全部楼层

迈是个不可思意的人和迈在一起才感觉很high

本帖最后由 温蒂echo 于 2010-10-22 09:51 编辑

谢谢KEEN的翻译,猫女说的很真诚,这句话
只为你盈盈一笑,我却逃也无处可逃。

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奥普拉果然问到:你是否对他的用药问题视而不见?LISA说直到他身体垮掉后她才意识到他有药物问题。关于为什么没有要孩子,LISA说她曾经的确想要孩子,但考虑到将来,她不想要卷入激烈的监护权战争(那么她早就预见了婚姻会终结?)。

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LISA说她曾经的确想要孩子,但考虑到将来,她不想要卷入激烈的监护权战争?这个女人变态的!还好自己也有钱,不然连门将多少钱也算计好了!可怕心计之深!  发表于 2010-10-22 03:27
"直到他身体垮掉后"-是指什么时候?  发表于 2010-10-22 02:36
会不会指离去后和迈的家人争。。  发表于 2010-10-22 01:15
当初就考虑到将来,这也叫对MJ有真爱!!!!!!  发表于 2010-10-22 01:06
這女人...果然從一結婚就考慮到離婚的問題了 那何必要結婚?再來離婚?一次又一次??  发表于 2010-10-22 00:41
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LISA说她的确做过一些坏事。她离开了她的丈夫就来到MJ身边,但当她和MJ在一起的时候,她还没有消化掉刚刚发生的事。MJ对她很生气,因为她还和她前夫一起出去度假,还总让她前夫在身边。然后MJ就会生气。如果你做了对不起他的事,MJ就会让你出局。LISA说MJ当时为她争取过,但她说当时她很傻很天真不懂MJ的心。

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但她说当时她很傻很天真不懂MJ的心。吼吼吼吼吼,原来米国有个美版的娇娇~~哈哈可惜偶们滴mj不是她的冠希哥哥,切~~呵呵很傻很天真~~你继续吧~~喵喵~~~  发表于 2010-10-22 03:33
老大辛苦了,猫女是一半内心话,一半为自己贴金的话  发表于 2010-10-22 01:04
LISA说MJ当时为她争取过 爭取過什麼? 不過,她終於承認自己在這段婚姻裡有過錯了  发表于 2010-10-22 00:45
直接把这理解为她根本没把MJ放眼里,就没想过要尊重MJ,爱一个人最起码是要尊重他,MJ也跟她现夫一样“理解”过她  发表于 2010-10-22 00:43
KEEN加油,我们等你翻译中....谢谢!辛苦!  发表于 2010-10-22 00:42
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LISA说她曾经的确想要孩子,但考虑到将来,她不想要卷入激烈的监护权战争(那么她早就预见了婚姻会终结?)

这是后话,后话就是事件过后说的话,她喜欢怎么说都行。
爱生活 .  爱michael  ,介两个是最米丽滴事老。。
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据称是医生和药物的进入,导致LISA的离去。她说在两人离婚后,她和MJ依然在一起藕断丝连了四年。LISA说她做了个坏决定就是放弃了。2005年他们最后一次讲话。当MJ想告诉她,她在某些事情上是对的的时候,她疏离他。MJ曾告诉她,有人要杀了他,夺走他的歌曲版权和资产,但她当时不知作何理解

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维持了4年~!!!05年最后一次见面,根本不可能,能继续维持4年照她的意思关系肯定ok的,在朋友之上的关系,但是又不是夫妻,肯定是有感情的,怎么可能05年最后一次见面后就上节目去羞辱嘲笑mj?猫女把大家当成智障~  发表于 2010-10-22 03:31
这只动物说话不打草稿啊?如果它说的是真的,MJ前脚向它打电话诉苦诉爱,它后脚就上奥普拉访谈嘲笑MJ?把人当傻子糊弄呢?!  发表于 2010-10-22 00:55
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MkGenie 发表于 2010-10-22 00:39
LISA说她的确做过一些坏事。她离开了她的丈夫就来到MJ身边,但当她和MJ在一起的时候,她还没有消化掉刚刚发 ...

原來是冠希的阿娇哇。。。。。焕然大悟。。。。
不敢老,怕老了以后不懂你
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LISA说2005年MJ问过她是否还爱他,她说她无关紧要。她说MJ很生气,说,对一个曾经爱过的人来说,怎么可能无关紧要,然后他开始哭泣。然后MJ告诉了她,哪些人他认为会谋杀他。所以LISA知道很多内幕。
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本帖最后由 yanghui517 于 2010-10-22 00:48 编辑

This bitch is really trying to set herself up as Mike one and true love and his widow.

大半夜的恶心得我睡不着了!

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