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MR. ZONEN: Up until the time that you arrived at Mr. Schaffel's home to do this, had Mr. Schaffel told you that you would get any benefit from doing this interview?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading and hearsay.
MR. ZONEN: I'm sorry?
THE COURT: Sustained.
MR. ZONEN: Were you going to be paid for this interview?
MS. ROWE: No.
MR. ZONEN: Were any promises made at all?
MS. ROWE: Just that I --
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading and hearsay.
THE COURT: Sustained.
MR. MESEREAU: And vague.
THE COURT: Hearsay, sustained. Hearsay.
MR. ZONEN: On hearsay. We would offer it again as to tending to explain her actions and her response, and not for the truth of the matter stated.
THE COURT: The objection's sustained.
MR. ZONEN: Did anybody offer you anything in response to your doing this?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection; leading.
THE COURT: Overruled. You may answer.
MS. ROWE: Do you mean quid pro quo?
MR. ZONEN: Yes.
MS. ROWE: No, I was excited to see Michael and the children when all this was over.
MR. ZONEN: Why did you do this interview?
MS. ROWE: I promised him that I would always be there for him and the children.
MR. ZONEN: Did anybody mention your children in the course of either doing this interview or leading up to the interview?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Asked and answered and leading.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MR. ZONEN: You can answer that question.
MS. ROWE: Can you explain what you mean?
MR. ZONEN: Did anybody mention anything about your children with regards to -- relative to this interview --
MR. MESEREAU: Objection.
MR. ZONEN: -- leading up to the interview or during the course of the interview?
MR. MESEREAU: Vague; compound; and leading and foundation.
THE COURT: Rephrase. It's an extended question now.
MR. ZONEN: All right. Specifically, you had conversations with Mr. Schaffel, did you not --
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: -- prior to the interview?
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: Did you have a number of conversations prior to the interview?
MS. ROWE: No.
MR. ZONEN: How many conversations did you have with him prior to the interview?
MS. ROWE: One to set up the day and time, and one for directions on how to get to his house.
MR. ZONEN: All right. Prior to actually arriving at his house, did he talk to you about your children at all?
MS. ROWE: He said the kids were fine; that Michael was going to be okay.
MR. ZONEN: All right. Did he make any representations to you about visitation?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading; foundation; hearsay.
THE COURT: Overruled. You may answer.
MS. ROWE: When I expressed excitement for seeing the children and for seeing Michael again and possibly reconnecting, he seemed to be very happy.
MR. ZONEN: All right. During the course of your being at the house conducting this interview, did you talk with Mr. Schaffel any further about your children?
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: All right. What did he say with regards to your children while you were at his house?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection; hearsay.
MR. ZONEN: Same exception. I will add also it's a statement in furtherance.
THE COURT: I reject that as a reason, but let me look. All right. I'll allow the question for the limited purpose of explaining her action after that. Do you want the question read back?
MS. ROWE: I can't see that far, yes, please.
THE COURT: Okay.
(Record read.)
MS. ROWE: That they were fine; that Michael was going to be okay; that it was -- he was happy for me that we were all going to get to see each other again, and how big the kids have gotten, and how beautiful they were, and how strong-headed Paris is and -- about like me.
MR. ZONEN: What was your expectation with regards to your children in terms of your completing this interview?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading; foundation.
THE COURT: Sustained.
MR. ZONEN: Did you have any expectations with regard to your kids at all?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection; leading.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: What was that? What were your expectations?
MS. ROWE: To be reintroduced to them and to be reacquainted with their dad.
MR. ZONEN: You wanted to be reacquainted with Mr. Jackson as well?
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: Why?
MS. ROWE: He's my friend.
END OF EXCERPT
At this time, Mr. Zonen asked about the interview itself. It was established that Ms. Rowe was at Mr. Schaffel's home for about ten and one half hours but the taping lasted nine hours. Ms. Rowe's attorney was in the house at the time, but at some times she was not with Ms. Rowe.
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MR. ZONEN: All right. Now, prior to the start of this interview, had you talked with anybody about the content of this interview, in other words, what was going to be asked of you?
MS. ROWE: No.
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence, leading and foundation.
THE COURT: Overruled. Do you want the question read back?
MR. ZONEN: Did you know what it was you were going to be saying?
MS. ROWE: No.
MR. ZONEN: Did you know what it was -- the questions, what questions would be asked of you?
MS. ROWE: No.
MR. ZONEN: Did you know whether or not it had anything to do with this video or this television show?
MS. ROWE: All I knew, it was whatever was being put out about Michael could be hurtful to him and the children, and I don't know if I was supposed to run interference. I don't know what the basis was for my interview.
MR. ZONEN: Did you ask him about the content of the television show?
MS. ROWE: No.
MR. ZONEN: Did you ask anybody about the content of the questions that would be put to you?
MS. ROWE: Absolutely not.
MR. ZONEN: Did you know that it would be questions put to you? In other words, it would be in the format of an interview?
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN:Who had told you that?
MS. ROWE: Mr. Schaffel.
MR. ZONEN: Who was present at the time when this interview commenced?
MS. ROWE: Iris. Stuart. Rudy. Christian was in and out. It was either Christian or Rudy that was in and out. Marc. Myself. And Ian Drew.
MR. ZONEN: Iris is Iris Finsilver, your attorney?
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: Stuart is who?
MS. ROWE: Stuart Backerman, I was told, was a spokesperson for Michael.
MR. ZONEN: Had you ever seen Mr. Backerman prior to that day?
MS. ROWE: No.
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MR. ZONEN: You said Rudy. Who is Rudy?
MS. ROWE: He was Marc's go-fer boy.
MR. MESEREAU: Objection; foundation.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MR. ZONEN: Go-fer? Somebody who did things for Mr. Schaffel?
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: Was Christian somebody you knew prior to that day?
MS. ROWE: No.
MR. ZONEN: Who is Ian Drew?
MS. ROWE: He was someone that was going to interview me.
MR. ZONEN: Did you have any preliminary conversation with him prior to the commencement of this interview?
MS. ROWE: Absolutely not.
MR. ZONEN:Was that by your choice?
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: And why is that? Why was that?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Foundation; 352; leading.
THE COURT: Overruled. You may answer.
MS. ROWE: Because I didn't want anyone to be able to come back to me and say that my interview was rehearsed, that someone told me what to say. Mr. Jackson knows no one can tell me what to say. I tend to speak my own mind, and I didn't want the interview to be construed as something other than what it was, which was a cold interview.
MR. ZONEN: At some point in time, were you given any kind of a list of questions?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MS. ROWE: It was offered to me and I declined it.
MR. ZONEN: All right. Who offered you the list?
MS. ROWE: Ian Drew.
MR. ZONEN: Why did you decline it?
MS. ROWE: Again, it was a cold interview, and I wanted to keep it that way.
MR. ZONEN: Was anyone else in the room during the course of the interview?
MS. ROWE: Everyone was. Rudy and Christian were in and out, but the main people who were there was Hamid, Iris, Stuart, Marc and myself. And Ian.
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MR. ZONEN: Miss Rowe, in the course of the interview that took place, I think you said over about the next nine hours --
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: -- were you truthful in the answers that you gave?
MS. ROWE: Can you rephrase that?
MR. ZONEN: Did you tell the truth? Did you answer all those questions truthfully and honestly?
MS. ROWE: No.
MR. ZONEN: All right. Why is that?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Foundation; opinion; relevance.
THE COURT: Overruled. You may answer.
MR. ZONEN: Why is that?
MS. ROWE: Because my personal life is my personal life and no one's business. And it pretty much doesn't matter. I could call something black. In the media, it will be called white.
MR. ZONEN: Do you remember the questions that you were asked?
MS. ROWE: Not all of them.
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MR. ZONEN: Were you asked questions about Mr. Jackson?
MS. ROWE: Yes, I was.
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading; hearsay.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MR. ZONEN: What questions that were asked of you about Mr. Jackson did you not give honest answers to?
MS. ROWE: Can you be more specific?
MR. ZONEN: I can. Did he ask -- were you asked questions about Mr. Jackson and his parenting of your two children?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection. Leading; move to strike.
THE COURT: Overruled.
MS. ROWE: Yes, I was asked the question.
MR. ZONEN: Were those the questions, or among the questions, that you did not answer honestly?
MR. MESEREAU: Objection; leading.
THE COURT: Overruled. You may answer.
MS. ROWE: Yes.
MR. ZONEN: When was the last time you had actually seen Mr. Jackson related to your two oldest children?
MS. ROWE: The day that we signed our divorce papers.
MR. ZONEN: Did you have any information at all about his parenting skills with your children?
MS. ROWE: Just -- yes, I did. I -- when I was seeing the children, I spoke with the nannies before we divorced. I saw him with the children. I've seen him with the kids the whole time I've known him.
END OF EXCERPTS
At this time, Judge Melville declared the court in recess until the following morning at 8:30 a.m. Court was adjourned at 2:30 p.m.
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