【6月3日】等待：最后的判决！ 下周一再来！（文字）（视频第17页）

lmjm

现在判轻罪的可能还大吗?

MJ的律师已经结束陈词！！

nova

Originally posted by MkGenie at 2005-6-4 01:44 AM: 可能今天宣判 陪审团 申请 今天延长 裁决时间，大概今天就要给出结果

又激动又紧张！ 终于好解脱了，但万一万一........... 真是不敢想！

nova

Originally posted by MkGenie at 2005-6-4 01:39 AM: 法庭现场报道： 评论MJ律师的强力陈词 点击此处下载 谢谢MJEOL

几乎没听懂！ 谁来帮忙啊！！！

各位，只是有可能而已 不要太激动

Mez最后一句话： “按照法律，你们必须把无罪的判决带回来，这是唯一正确的事！” 检方开始进行反击。

aminta

倒要看看检方想怎么反击

Kian

好有气势...= = 希望检方被吓得没话说吧...或者呛着了说不出也可以...~~ -__,-

lmjm

还要反击啊?!没完拉 我还以为陪审团就可以讨论了

Originally posted by nova at 2005-6-4 01:50 AM: 几乎没听懂！ 谁来帮忙啊！！！

听不懂，看的懂不？ Host: Talk about his demeanor and how he is approaching this presentation to the jury today. Guthrie: Well, you know, jack, Tom Mesereau is really on this morning. I don't know if he slept 12 hours last night, but it sure seems like he is very energetic, very urgent in his tone. Going through the transcript, some of the testimony that has been given in this case, almost line by line, he would say lie by lie. She on the attack today. There's an urgency in his tone, he is almost breathless, fast paced, intense, he is focused, a lot more than yesterday which frankly a lot of people felt he was scattered, off his game because of some of the technical problems they had at the outset. Totally different Tom Mesereau this morning. Host: We know that the defense has always been attacking the accuser's family here and much of what they had to say. What is Mesereau saying about them this morning? Guthrie: Well, what he is doing is seizing on these inconsistent statements that he says the family has made. He is literally going witness by witness. He started witness accuser, then moved to the brother, moved to the sister. Now he is on the mother. Going through their testimony and pointing out what he calls are lies. For example, he said the accuser conveniently has changed the dates of the molestation because he knew he had to deal with this interview, this rebuttal video where he was extolling the virtues of… He said the dates have changed. He said the number of times he said he was molested changed. First he said five times, on the stand he said two times. He told the story about how the accuser said it was his grandmother who told him this story about if you don't masturbate you might rape a girl. On the witness stand for the first time through everyone's shock he attributed that statement to Michael Jackson, even the police officer, the lead investigator didn't see that coming. He said he's a liar, he's a perger and that's an excuse. He said he flip flops all over the place because he is a liar. He said how many lies does this guy have to tell for you to see what's going on. Host: What is Tom Mesereau saying about this notion of trying to get money through a civil suit from Michael Jackson? Guthrie: Needless to say Tom Mesereau doesn't buy that for a minute, neither does they he want the jury to. He has argued that the purpose of the criminal case is so that that family can come into civil court way criminal conviction and get pay. He just said to the jurors, if you convict Michael Jackson of anything, they are going to be multimillionaires. It is the biggest con of their careers. They will be celebrating. They are waiting. They just need you to help them. Yesterday, he made a similar argument, saying these people will never work another day in their lives and it's all up to you. You just need to convict. And they are getting paid. Host: Savannah, you know a witness testifies, often the words come into evidence, but often we spend a lost time looking at jurors and certainly as reporters at their demeanor. Rarely though do attorneys bring that up in closing argument. Has that come up at all with regard to any of the main witnesses in this case during Mr. Mesereau's close? Guthrie: Yes. In fact, Tom Mesereau has used that video that everybody has talked about of the accuser's first interview. He said I hope you do look at his demeanor. He said look at his demeanor as he lies. He also said look at him on the witness stand. Remember, he didn't get angry or upset when he relayed this alleged molestation. The only time he got angry was when he was talking about how Michael Jackson rejected his family, how he didn't want to be a part of this accuser's family anymore. That was the only time that the boy got mad. He once again said he's cunning and smart. Remember what chris tucker said. He also talked about the boy's disciplinary problems at school he said he is a precocious disciplinary problem, not little lamb they want you to think he is. Host: Obviously taking on the accuser quite directly as he has to do since the accuser is the witness who makes the molestation charges, of course his brother also testified as to having seen some things. But without the accuser, the molestation case, the whole case falls apart. But the accuse area's mother, a significant part of the prosecution case. Perhaps the key to the defense case, Mr. Mesereau must be deal wig her today, Savannah? Guthrie: Oh, yes. In fact, as I left he was getting into her testimony. No, the gloves won't on for her, I can assure you of that. He said, this is a veteran liar, somebody who has no qualms about lying. He said sure the prosecutors are telling you she never asked for money. He said that is not her mo. She looks you in the eye and tells you a tale of woe and everybody brings out their wallet and gives her money. He said a quote yesterday that got to the heart of their theory of this woman -- he said perjury has no meaning to her. Is lied in the JC Penney depositions. She lied on the application for welfare. Perjury is a habit and she committed perjury right in this courtroom. Host: It is interesting when you look and listen to the forerossity of the attacks on accuser's mother, I guess have you to worry if you are the defense attorney here, are you putting all of your eggs in one basket, is there a danger here that you are taking on the mother, and the jury might say we don't care about her, you are right, but what about the accuser himself? Guthrie: I think we are hearing about outstanding arguments in that courtroom. But I think they actually show if you look at both arguments how close a case this is. Mr. Zonen, first of all, delivering the closing instead of Mr. Sneddon. They are not going to take any chances. They are going to put their best foot forward. He gets up there and begins essentially by attacking Mr. Mesereau which is a rather dramatic choice to make. Then Mr. Mesereau points out, one that may be suggests how desperate or how close it is depending on how you want to look at it. Now you have Mesereau hammering away at the accuser's mother and accuser. Not in a soft and gentle way. Really firing power at that again, it suggests that this case is hardly a shoe-in for the... It is not a clear win for the prosecution. I think it is certainly excellent lawyering, but suggests something more here that it's anyone's call on how the jury will go on the facts in this case. Host: Savannah, are we seeing personal attacks, if you will, being delivered by the lawyers against the otherawyers during the course of the summations? Guthrie: Well, yes and no. I don't know that it is personal because it is about the case. But I mean, there is a tremendous amount of bad feeling and spite among the parties in this case. We talked last hour, there is no cleechality here, no pats on the back. These people don't like each other. It is very clear to me. Ron Zonen, went after Mesereau at the beginning of the opening statement. Let me tell you, Tom Mesereau is returning the favor. He's gone after the prosecutors. I have a long quote to read you. I think it really goes to the heart of the matter. What he said was this -- in his closing argument, the defense has gone back to the well, one of their favorite theories, that is that Tom Sneddon has a vendetta against Michael Jackson, something they weren't permitted to do through any trial testimony because the judge won't let them, but they sure are arguing it in closing arguments. ======================================

nova

Originally posted by MkGenie at 2005-6-4 02:01 AM: 听不懂，看的懂不？ Host: Talk about his demeanor and how he is approaching this presentation to the jury today. Guthrie: Well, you know, jack, Tom Mesereau is really on this morning. I ...

看到一半就不想看了，自从进入大学，我的英语是一天比一天差！

nova

Originally posted by lmjm at 2005-6-4 02:00 AM: 还要反击啊?!没完拉 我还以为陪审团就可以讨论了

HEHE 有人比我还着急！

Kian

“他去了Solvang医院急症室做了检查，那是最近他家的医院，但他没有逗留。”医院的发言人Janet O'Neill说，“那是晚上的某个时候，但我不知道具体的时间。” “显然我不能谈论有关他为什么在医院里，因为个人隐私的原因。” 一名Jackson的发言人之前否认了Jackson曾去过医院。Jackson的案件之前曾两次因为他造访医院而中断，一次是为了去做有流感症状的治疗，另一次是因为背部问题，令法官恐吓说如果他不到法庭便要拘捕他。

杰克逊面临的十项指控 ――――Michael Jackson面对的远甚于猥亵指控 作者：Dan Abrams/XUE XUE 2005年6月2日 结案陈词完毕后，紧接着的程序是陪审团将进入审议厅，作出Michael Joe Jackson是否有罪的裁决。 Jackson面临的十项指控如下： 罪名1：阴谋罪。该项指控指出，Michael Jackson“与Ronald Konitzer, Dieter Weizner, Frank Casio, Vinnie Amen 以及Marc Schaffel，通过非法操纵、扣押、隔离、藏匿、引诱以及威逼手段，对被告及其家庭实施了绑架、非法监禁和勒索。” 该项罪名成立的判决：共谋参与绑架儿童，最多可判以四年徒刑，非法监禁最多可判以一年徒刑，勒索最多可判以四年徒刑。 罪名2～5：猥亵罪。该项指控指出，在2003年2月20日至2003年3月12日间，“Jackson蓄意、非法地对原告施以猥亵、淫荡行为，其故意引起、挑逗并且默认自己以及原告的性欲。”引用两处男孩的说法“Michael Jackson猥亵了我”，男孩的两个兄弟说道，“我看到了Michael Jackson猥亵他。” 该项指罪名成立的判决：第2～5项猥亵罪名中的任何一条，都将为Michael Jackson带来8年的牢狱之灾。 罪名6：猥亵未遂罪。 “Jackson于2003年2月至3月12日，企图挑逗原告，让原告在Jackson身上进行淫荡行为。” “证词中有一部分，原告着重讲述了，Michael Jackson抓着他的手，将其放在 Michael Jackson的私处，原告随即挣脱”。资深通讯记者Jim Moret披露了“内幕”：“陪审团可能惊恐地发现，这确切地说不是猥亵――而是一种淫荡行为。你所需要的是‘通过挑逗任何一个低于14岁的未成年人，以达到触摸其身体的目的’。这种触摸可以隔着衣物也可以在衣服下直接进行。” 罪名7～10：酒精重罪――即为儿童提供酒精，以期达到进行淫荡行为的目的。这四项罪名中的任何一条，均涉及提供男孩酒精，为了对他进行上述的四项猥亵罪行。指控指出他非法提供原告酒精来协助他猥亵儿童。 如果在猥亵未遂这条罪状站不住脚，因此而宣判被告无罪的情况下，能否以酒精罪名将其治罪？“可以，”辩护律师Daniel Horowitz说道。“这是在十九世纪九十年代发明的一项罪状，这条法律条文写进了加州法律，针对那些用鸦片酒或者鸦片剂迷惑他人，将其击倒，然后潜入商店进行抢劫的人。但是该条法律适用于任何重罪，一切药物包括酒精，只要是用来攻击或者弱化他人，进行犯罪行为。这种行为自然就是犯罪。随着本周案情的发展，陪审团仍然可能以给未成年人提供酒精这项次要的轻罪来定Jackson的罪。 该项罪名成立的判决：如果Jackson因为酒精罪名被定罪，这将花时2年，通常这类次要轻罪如果成立的话，会被判以罚款或者缓刑。

寒

慌死了。。。