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KING: We're back. You mentioned earlier how you boosted your client and always tried to be optimistic. But do you have to give -- do you have to talk at all about the possibility of a guilty verdict, tell him what might happen to him? Deal with what might happen?
MESEREAU: Well, Larry, you have to be honest with your client at all times. You do have ethical and professional obligations to explain the situation the client is in, but at the same time, you know, if you really believe in your case and you really are optimistic about your chances, you also have to convey that as well. And I was always optimistic about this case once I learned about it, because the more you looked into who these accusers were and who the witnesses the prosecution was going to call were, the more ridiculous everything looked.
KING: So, there was no reason to say, Michael, be prepared, you might be in jail tonight?
MESEREAU: Well, you never know what a jury is going to do. You don't know those 12 people. They're not personal friends of yours. You don't know what makes them tick. But I always had a good feeling about this jury. I always felt that our case was going in very well. And I always thought the truth would prevail. And I really felt that these jurors were very independent-minded, that nobody was going to push them around, they were going to follow the law and do what's right.
KING: Tempe, Arizona, for Tom Mesereau. Hello.
CALLER: Hello, Larry, I love your show.
KING: Thank you.
CALLER: My question is, how do you think the media coverage affected this case, Mr. Mesereau?
KING: Yeah. Did it?
MESEREAU: Well, ultimately, we had the right result. Justice was served. An innocent man walked free. So, I can't say that, in the long run, the media had the damaging effect that I was worried about at certain points in the trial. The problem I have with the media was they tried to turn it into a circus. They tried to pursue biases and prejudices against Mr. Jackson, because they thought it would generate interest and ratings, and they tried to make a circus out of the case. And to some extent, they did. But in the end, justice prevailed, because this jury was not going to be unduly influenced by other people. They were going to do what was right, and they did.
KING: Do you believe, therefore -- do you believe the jury didn't watch television?
MESEREAU: I believe they didn't. I believe this jury took Judge Melville's orders very seriously. I believe they took their job very seriously and I believe they were determined not to be unfairly or unduly influenced by anybody.
KING: Manillapan, Florida, hello.
CALLER: Hi, Mr. King. I love your show.
KING: Thank you.
CALLER: I'd like to know if Mr. Mesereau could disclose the approximate cost of the defense.
MESEREAU: I'm sorry. I didn't totally understand the question.
KING: If you could disclose the approximate cost of the defense.
MESEREAU: I will not talk about legal fees or cost. That's confidential.
KING: What did it cost the state?
MESEREAU: It had to have cost them many millions of dollars. I have been told that the board of supervisors of Santa Barbara county has been up in arms about the cost of this case and if you look at the number of sheriffs and investigators and experts and people and prosecutors put on this case, it's absurd. They wouldn't do it in a murder case. They wouldn't do it in a serial killer case, but they did it because Michael Jackson is a superstar and they wanted to take a superstar down.
KING: How important was your investigator, Scott Ross?
MESEREAU: He was extremely important. Scott Ross did a fabulous job, as did Jesus Castillo, our second investigator. They were critical to our defense. They were relentless. They were professional. They dug up the facts. They found the witnesses. They got them to court. These guys were just terrific.
KING: Do you use your team a lot, Tom? Did other lawyers work with you?
MESEREAU: Yes. My co-counsel and law partner, Susan Yu, was absolutely essential to this defense. She was tireless in the way she put the evidence together, the way she assisted me in preparation. Bob Sanger, my co-counsel from Santa Barbara was an unbelievably effective lawyer. He was a trial lawyer in the trial court. He argued in the appellate courts. He did law in motion. He knew the local procedures and system. We had a lot of assistants helping us out in his office and my office and it was a great team effort and it succeeded.
KING: And, we'll be back with some more moments with Thomas Mesereau, ask about him, his future. Don't go away.
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Part 6 of 6
KING: One more call. Gainesville, Georgia, hello.
CALLER: Yes. I'd like to ask Mr. Mesereau if he believes that Tom Sneddon is responsible for the grand jury testimony being leaked to the press.
MESEREAU: I don't know if Tom Sneddon is personally responsible for that, but certainly somebody in the prosecution side, it would appear, was responsible and when I say prosecution side, I'm including the sheriff's department.
As you know, those transcripts were leaked just as the trial was beginning, and it's my belief they were leaked to try and prejudice the entire process. Do I know that Tom Sneddon did it personally? I do not have any understanding of that, but I think somebody who favored the prosecution did it. That's my belief.
KING: You said Michael's going to stay at Neverland?
MESEREAU: I don't know the answer to that, Larry. We just haven't had a chance to talk about his future very much.
KING: He's got such an interest in kids. Do you think he'll still have some come over? Or are you going to advise him against...
MESEREAU: Again, well, I really haven't talked to Michael very much about the future. I do know, as we said before, that he has to get a lot tougher with who he lets into his life and who he feels sorry for and who he wants to heal and help because he's a real target.
KING: We'll ask his brothers tomorrow.
One other thing I didn't cover. Were you surprised -- I know you left the case -- were you surprised at the Robert Blake verdict?
MESEREAU: No, I was not. As you may recall, I did the three- week preliminary hearing in that case.
KING: I remember.
MESEREAU: I thought the case was full of holes and full of problems.
KING: You told me that.
MESEREAU: I was not surprised at all.
KING: You told me then you thought he would win.
MESEREAU: Yes.
KING: Sorry you left it?
MESEREAU: No. You know, life goes on. We had a falling out and those things happen in the high-pressure world of criminal defense. But he |
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