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辛苦翻译了。
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发表于 2011-1-5 10:35:04 | 显示全部楼层
Poor MJ !!!!!!!
So sad to read this : "...he was DEAD right there he had his eyes open he was totally gone..."
God will give the world the truth.
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本帖最后由 alextoalex 于 2011-1-4 21:52 编辑
stroller  这种现场描述多贴点哇。  发表于 22 分钟前


MJJC上的各家报道的总汇帖子。
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101229

Foxnews记者的庭内笔记

Fox News Reporter Sally Arthy was in court today for the preliminary hearing of Michael Jackson’s Doctor Conrad Murray. Here are her notes from inside the courtroom.

There are no definite witnesses in court today
Judge goes through court proceedings regarding photographs etc/comings and goings/cell phones
There is a lottery for public seating each morning
Judge Walden opening statement 0910
7-8 Day hearing
20-30 witnesses
Show Michael Jackson preparing for important tour in U.K.
Major world event also important for MJ career
MJ crew rehearsal at Staples Centre in the evening
Defendant Murray working as personal psychologist, preventative treated
Murray treating MJ at home in Holmby Hills
Murray going late evening-midnight-1am at night and provide care..6 nights a week at MJ home giving Propofol to help MJ sleep for 2 straight months every night
No indication Propofol can be used for sleep aide
TIMELINE:
June 23rd 2009..MJ normal routine to Staples Centre..rehearsal fabulous
June 24 same routine good rehearsal at staples..MJ optimistic
Returns home at 1am June 25th
Murray’s BMW car in driveway according to security
MJ dropped off at home
June 25
1:30am Court learned through evidence that Murray began treatment
2:00am valium pill administered
3:00am Intravenous diazebeem, IV of benzso
5:00am other treatment
7:30am other drugs through IV
10:40-11am infusing with propofol..at some point he ceases to breathe and dies after that
MJ dead before paramedics arrived
Only 2 pepople in room at the time— MJ and Dr. Murray
11:51am call- lasted 11 mins..witness heard noises at other end of phone
Likely Conrad Murray who realized MJ was not breathing.
12:12pm Call by Murray to Michael Emeer Williams, security, saying he needs help..left a message.
12:15pm Williams returns call and Murray says MJ had a bad reaction.
Williams calls another member of security who is not at house.
12:17pm Williams then calls Alberto Alvarez who is in second trailer outside house, checks permission to go in house, goes upstairs to MJ’s bedroom.
He Sees MJ on bed, Murray doing one handed CPR on the soft bed.
Murray reports MJ had a bad reaction and asks Alvarez to collect medical evidence.
Prosecution says Murray has still not called 911 at this point.
12:21pm Alvarez told to get a bag and Murray collects medical bottles, and IV bag etc., as told and only then is he told to call 911.
Possible that Murray waited 20 minutes to call 911...MJ could have been dead before noon.
12:26pm Paramedics treating MJ on site. MJ’s Eyes fixed and dilated and he was cool to touch. He flatlined so heart action taking place. MJ dead...no observation of appropriate equipment for treatment with propofol, according to paramedics.
Asked Murray about underlying medical condition.
Murray asked what drugs he had given...doesn't mention propofol
Prosecutors says this could have been useful.
UCLA medical center advised futher care on MJ useless..they in contact with paramedics.
1:07pm Paramedics transport to UCLA with MJ
1:13pm Arrive in ER room.
Doctors at hospital only asked Murray what he treating MJ for. Mentioned on drug, valium and flomax..no mention of propofol to UCLA doctors.
Doctors still tried to bring MJ to life.
2:26pm Dr. Cooper at UCLA pronounced MJ dead.
Murray had conversation with security personnel at hospital.
Detectives question Murray next day and then learned of propofol.
Autopsy - acute propofol intoxication
Court will hear from medical experts...extreme deviation from expected standard of care...
Key points made by Prosecution:
-Lack of appropriate equipment
-Propofol doesn't help imsomnia
-Cocktail of drugs
-Ineffective CPR
-Failure to call 911 immediately
-Failure to maintain appropriate medical records

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End of opening statement from prosecution
No opening statement from defense.
Kenny Ortega called to stand.
Kenneth Ortega states name.
Told to speak in loud voice
Walden starts questions:
Job?
Director and Choreographer in theatrical production
How long?
Chore since 1970’s and director since 1980’s
First meet MJ?
1991
MJ interested in creative partnership and directing tour dangerous world tour which Ortega did.
1991-2009 relationship?
Most of time when rehearsing production..MJ looking to do something at right time when appropriate..most time spent working together.
This is it tour...did u discuss w MJ?
Talks started April 2009...MJ and me co-directed productions.
April interaction from then on with MJ?
3-4 days a week before prod then 4-5 days when rehearsing per week
MJ demeanor?
Called and invited..great about this ...like u to work with me...excited about it...tremendous potential to be creative..MJ shared reasons for wanting to do it.
Reason?
Good time to perform again, his kids appreciate it, for his fans, remind people to take care of planet and each other.
Plans beyond tour
MJ asked about going to India....wanted Ortega to go..MJ asked if Ortega had visited Japan...taking show to these places.
Professionally...MJ post tour?
After tour MJ wanted to help direct with Ortega on motion pictures. MJ liked film making and wanted to dev movie ideas.
Rehearsals prior to June 25...were u at rehearsals at Burbank at start before moved to staples?
Yes...at beginging of May and April.
Transitioned to forum in L.A. in June...then to staples..large scale rehearsals.
Yes
U on staples every day?
Yes
When start staples?
At some point in June moved to staples
Demeanour of MJ at staples...excited?
Yes
General schedual at staples?
Diff call times for crew, dancers, MJ etc
What mj sched?
Late pm
Evening?
Yes
Length?
6 hours max...4 days a week
MJ involved in every creative decision.
Friday June 19 2009...incident at rehearsal...what?
Ortega: at staples..MJ arrived he didn't appear well at all. MJ chilled soft spoken seemed not well...
Did u have concerns?
Absolutely
He wasn't in condition to be at rehearsal..he didn't seem well enough to be there...he didn't rehearse and didn’t want to go home..asked for choreography to do his part and watch from arena..this happened for a while. He just appeared very lost it was scary..it felt scary..said MJ
Asked--would you rather go home..he said would u be ok with that..Ortega said absolutely.
Previously like this?
Meeting next day at MJ home on June 20th.
Did u know what meeting about? No
Who there?
MJ there. Murray there (Ortega asked to i.d. Murray in court)...Frank Deleo MJ manager and Randy Phillips.
What next?
Quickly clear meeting about me that Murray upset I had sent MJ home and not allow to rehearse and voiced my concerns about MJ health..Murray said not my responsibility..to leave MJ’s health to him
Murray scolding towards me...
Response?
Tried to explain..choice made together...MJ in danger and others if went on stage..it was MJ’s choice and I supported it.
Better for all if I focus on show
MJ physically and emotionally fine according to Murray.
Tues June 23 rehearsals resumed. How was this?
Fantastic, MJ in great form..MJ we all knew...
Weds june 24?
Involved active participation in rehearsal...
Discussion at end w MJ...?
2 wonderful days of rehearsing...was feeling good and confident..MJ asked if happy? He said was happy..MJ said he was happy..asked to thank crew for all hard work and talked regarding next days rehearsal..
Practicing illusion..
Said goodnight
Thurs june 25
Learned news of MJ
Had phone call to Staples....
I was on way to rehearsal and Randy going to pick up MJ for rehearsal..Randy said calling for different reason and I am at house for different reason there is ambulance outside
Prosecution finished:
Chernoff cross examine Ortega:
Tour would enhance your reputation?
If dancers etc
If u created show was poor
Would that affect reputation?
It could
Meeting at house..who called meeting?
I don't know.
Why manager there?
Who is Randy Phillips...high up in AEG?
On 19th observed MJ to be chilled. First time MJ came to rehearsal and looked sick?
First time came and looked like he couldn’t perform?
Yes
For most part we were headed to greatness...but MJ sometimes didn't show up..created anxiety for me...difficult to move forward...if not there
Why not present?
Don't know
19 June: anything else observed?
Ortega: seemed to be in state that he wasn’t present...I was troubled by his appearance.
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发表于 2011-1-5 11:14:40 | 显示全部楼层
悲伤~心痛。。。
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发表于 2011-1-5 11:29:26 | 显示全部楼层
法赫姆告诉检察官,莫里正狂乱地跪着按压MJ,他转头问法赫姆和另一位保镖,“这屋里有谁会做心肺复苏?”


我艹!!庸医去死吧!

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个人猜想:两权相比,取其轻,说自己不会,责任要轻于故意(或疏忽,真是疏忽)杀人  发表于 2011-1-5 13:50
他只会扎针~嗯  发表于 2011-1-5 11:48
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发表于 2011-1-5 11:39:25 | 显示全部楼层
还有一点,就是MJ保镖说,当时在MJ房间里,莫里还问他们会不会CPR,当时他和其他保镖都觉得很奇怪
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发表于 2011-1-5 11:54:22 | 显示全部楼层
晓涵  他只会扎针~嗯  发表于 4 分钟前


现在这畜生还满嘴喷粪说是MJ自己给自己注射的异丙酚,已然连扎针都不会了.....不知道这畜生还会干嘛?
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发表于 2011-1-5 12:54:33 | 显示全部楼层
史上最无知医生。
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M一个~心疼死了~
Ring bells through the window,I wish you smile for me,sing song altogether lai lai lai lai····
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发表于 2011-1-5 13:41:06 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢S翻译。。
认真工作,快乐生活;心怀感恩,知足常乐。。。
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发表于 2011-1-5 14:06:03 | 显示全部楼层
先把8楼翻译一下吧,唉。。。看得我心痛啊。。
Originally Posted by mc8755 View Post
肯尼奥特加大概地谈了一下TII巡演,接着谈到了6月19号。迈克尔来到彩排现场,打着冷战,非常安静,完全不在状态。肯尼说(看他的状态)迈克尔现在不应该在那儿,而迈克尔那晚也没有排练。肯尼说他不知道为什么但他很关心迈克尔。辩方询问肯尼关于MJ的化妆师Karen Faye,肯尼说他从来没和Karen谈论过MJ的身体状况。但是辩方说肯尼确实与Karen谈论过而且肯定还对着Karen大吼。但是肯尼否认了,他说他从来没有与KF谈过话。
﹎_ ^  You are my life ...                    
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发表于 2011-1-5 14:35:09 | 显示全部楼层
第九楼翻译,这应该是一个在法庭外的歌迷的自述
inside courtroom updates by mc8755
            我不知道除了Michael,孩子们还有莫里以外没人能进楼上的房间,但这次穆罕默德被允许进入,他看到Michael躺在床上,他知道那个时候MJ已经去世了,他的眼睛睁着,他真的去世了。莫里非常惊慌地问他会不会心脏复苏术。当他们说这些时法庭上展示了几张MJ去世时的房间的照片,我没看到那些照片,但是那些看到照片的歌迷们都哭了。穆罕默德发现Prince就在房间门口,呆若木鸡,Paris在房门外的地板上哭泣,他把孩子们带下楼给保姆,保姆把他们带进汽车中跟着救护车走。
                穆罕默德对MJ和孩子们都非常关心,当他走出法庭时,我们都不停地感谢他。法官说他很想继续听证会,但是他的日程安排太紧了,所以听证会明天早上9点半再来。。。听证会会持续两周的时间。
               噢,为什么没有人说这个——今天对莫里来说事非常糟糕的一天。他的律师们一直在问很傻的问题,而控方一直在拒绝回答并且得到了允许。(额,不是很清楚这句对不对。原文:the prosecution kept objecting and getting sustained)然后辩方又换了一种问法一直询问关于谁能进入MJ的房间,以及是否有发现他们的指纹等各种问题。辩方这种行为非常愚蠢,今天对于控方来说是大获全胜。
                我从一个进入到法庭中的女孩那儿听到了这一幕:当他们谈论到莫里一直在到处打电话时Katherine非常生气,周围的人都靠向她并且轻抚她的背安慰她。
                我不知道媒体是怎样报道的,但是真实发生的情况是辩方律师询问肯尼奥特加他有没有跟MJ谈论过MJ的身体状况,肯尼说没有。辩方律师又问肯尼有没有跟MJ的朋友谈论过MJ的身体状况,肯尼也说没有。但是辩方律师说他听到过肯尼关于这个重MJ的朋友兼常年化妆师Karen Faye咆哮过,肯尼却坚决否认。这个现象很奇怪,因为对于之前的问题肯尼都给出了具体的答案,但是对于这几个问题肯尼除了否认并没有说其他的东西。

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感谢亲的翻译~看到这些,心很痛~~~  发表于 2011-1-12 23:24
感谢亲!  发表于 2011-1-5 18:49
唉。。。  发表于 2011-1-5 15:40
非常感谢。  发表于 2011-1-5 14:36
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本帖最后由 stroller 于 2011-1-5 17:47 编辑

MJJC上ivy做的首日总结记录:

Summary of 1st day of Murray prelim -

January 4 , 2011 Preliminary Hearing Day 1

- Katherine, Latoya and Jackie Jackson attends the hearing.

- After opening statement from the DA, Kenny Ortega, Michael Amir Williams and Faheen Muhammad testifies.

- Below are the summary of their testimonies as reported by the media

Prosecutor David Walgren opening statement

- Walgren on his opening statement mentions that MJ was already dead by time Murray called for help, Murray hid the fact that he have propofol to MJ, Murray didn't do proper CPR (performing CPR on Jackson with one hand on his bed, rather than a hard surface as is generally required.)and that he asked a bodyguard (Alberto Alverez) to hid evidence.

- "The evidence will show through the expert testimony, by all accounts, Michael Jackson was dead in the bedroom at 100 North Carrolwood prior to the paramedics arriving," Walgren said.

- Walgren said evidence will show Murray waited at least 21 minutes to call 911 and ordered a bodyguard to help him clean up evidence before summoning help. In the most favorable interpretation, Walgren said, Murray waited at least nine minutes before calling paramedics.

The following is the timeline of events as presented by Walgren

- 1:30am Court learned through evidence that Murray began treatment
- 2:00am valium pill administered
- 3:00am Intravenous diazebeem, IV of benzso
- 5:00am other treatment
- 7:30am other drugs through IV
- 10:40-11am infusing with propofol..at some point he ceases to breathe and dies after that
- MJ dead before paramedics arrived
- Only 2 pepople in room at the time— MJ and Dr. Murray
- 11:51am call- lasted 11 mins..witness heard noises at other end of phone. Likely Conrad Murray who realized MJ was not breathing.
- 12:12pm Call by Murray to Michael Amir Williams, security, saying he needs help..left a message.
- 12:15pm Williams returns call and Murray says MJ had a bad reaction. Williams calls another member of security who is not at house.
- 12:17pm Williams then calls Alberto Alvarez who is in second trailer outside house, checks permission to go in house, goes upstairs to MJ’s bedroom.
- He Sees MJ on bed, Murray doing one handed CPR on the soft bed.
- Murray reports MJ had a bad reaction and asks Alvarez to collect medical evidence.
- Prosecution says Murray has still not called 911 at this point.
- 12:21pm Alvarez told to get a bag and Murray collects medical bottles, and IV bag etc., as told and only then is he told to call 911.
- Possible that Murray waited 20 minutes to call 911...MJ could have been dead before noon.
- 12:26pm Paramedics treating MJ on site. MJ’s Eyes fixed and dilated and he was cool to touch. He flatlined so heart action taking place. MJ dead...no observation of appropriate equipment for treatment with propofol, according to paramedics.
- Asked Murray about underlying medical condition. Asked Murray what drugs he had given...doesn't mention propofol
- Prosecutors says this could have been useful.
- UCLA medical center advised futher care on MJ useless..they in contact with paramedics.
- 1:07pm Paramedics transport to UCLA with MJ
- 1:13pm Arrive in ER room.
- Doctors at hospital only asked Murray what he treating MJ for. Mentioned on drug, valium and flomax..no mention of propofol to UCLA doctors.
- Doctors still tried to bring MJ to life.
- 2:26pm Dr. Cooper at UCLA pronounced MJ dead.
- Murray had conversation with security personnel at hospital.
- Detectives question Murray next day and then learned of propofol.

Murray's attorney, Ed Chernoff, declined to give an opening statement.

Kenny Ortega testimony

- Ortega mentions that on June 19th Micheal didn't seem well.

- "He didn't look well at all," Ortega testified. "Michael was chilled and soft-spoken. ... He wasn't in the kind of condition to be at rehearsal." Ortega also said Jackson appeared lost.

- "It was scary. I couldn't put my finger on it," Ortega said. "I said, 'Michael, is this the best place for you to be or do you want to go home and be with your family?' He said, 'Would you be OK with that?' I said, 'OK,' and he left."

- Ortega say on June 20th he's called to a meeting at MJ's house. He says MJ, Murray, Frank Dileo and Randy Phillips was present at this meeting.

- Ortega says ""It quickly became clear that the meeting was about me, Dr. Murray was upset that I had sent Michael home the night before and didn't allow him to rehearse."

- Ortega says Dr. Murray scolded him and said "Dr. Murray told me that this was not my responsibility and he asked me not to act like a doctor or psychologist ... and leave Michael’s health to him" . Ortega also mentions Murray suggested Jackson should not have been sent home because he was physically and emotionally fine.

- Ortega recalls what MJ told him by saying "I know you love me and care about me. You don't have to worry about me. I'm fine,' and he gave me a big hug,".

- When cross examined by defense lawyers Ortega says he never seen anyone going through drug withdrawals, denies discussing MJ's health with Karen Faye. He also denies "riot act" and yelling to Michael saying "it was an emotional meeting but there was no yelling"

Michael Amir Williams testimony

- Michael Amir tells that he received a frantic call from Murray saying MJ had a "bad reaction" and that immediate help was needed, but that the doctor didn't ask him to call 911. Murray also tells Williams to get the house right away.

- Williams says he then called Alberto Alvarez, MJ's security guard, and asked Alvarez to walk to the front door. Williams says he heard Murray's voice in the background, then Alvarez hung up.

- Williams said he arrived at the house when the ambulance was already there and helped put the children in a car to follow the ambulance.

- Williams said Dr. Murray then approached him and said ”Brother Michael, Mr. Jackson has some cream in the house that I knew he wouldn’t want the world to know about". He added "It was an odd question, to ask to go to the house to get the cream.”

- Williams testified that he told Murray he didn’t have a key to the house when in fact he did. He says he called the house and ordered that it be put on lock down and not to let anyone in.

- Williams said that Frank Dileo, Murray and him went to tell MJ's kids that their father was dead.

- His voice faltered as he recalled how the children, still thinking their father was alive, began listing his allergies for the doctors. “It was horrible,” he said.

- Williams said Murray said he was going to get something to eat and left the hospital.

- In cross examination by Murray's lawyers Williams connection to the Nation of Islam,other phone calls he made in the minutes after Murray’s call is questioned. He also asked the personal assistant how frequently he went upstairs to Jackson’s bedroom, and whether his fingerprints may be found on vials, intravenous bags or syringes. Williams denied this saying "I never touched any of that".


Faheem Muhammad testimony

- Faheem testifies to be in the room when Murray was administrating CPR.

- Jackson was lying with his eyes and mouth open, appearing not to be alive, testified Faheem Muhammad. “I recall him being in a sort of panic state, and I recall him shortly after asking if anyone in the room knew CPR,” Muhammad testified.

- Muhammad said " I knew Dr. Murray was a heart surgeon, so I looked at Alberto [Alvarez] kind of shocked,” he said. Alvarez eventually began helping Murray administer CPR, Muhammad testified.

- Muhammad also testified MJ's kids Prince and Paris being inside the room/ just outside the door and Paris crying on her hands and knees. He says the left the room to whisk two of Jackson’s children, Paris and Prince, away from the foyer at the front of the room to keep them from the commotion.

- Muhammad also testified that less than an hour after the singer had been declared dead, the doctor approached him, saying he was hungry and wanted to get something to eat, and abruptly left the hospital soon afterward.

- In cross examination Muhammad said Murray spoke with MJ's family and police before leaving.

TMZ reported that Murray's baby mama Nicole Alvarez was present in court and asked to come back later on Friday.
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