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发表于 2009-10-31 20:00:40 | 显示全部楼层
According to him, if the concerts were not goint to be ready, it would have been easier for AEG to blame it on Michael, than blame themsleves and their lack of timing skills.
据此人透露,如果到期后演唱会并未准备好,对AEG来说,把责任推到迈克身上比承认自己缺乏时间管理技巧要来得容易。

Once again, do not ask me for his name, I will never tell, not even via PM. He was brutally honest with me and I will honor his request.
在一次申明,不要向我询问那个人的名字,我永远都不会说,即便是站内短信也不行。他对我真诚以待,我也会达成他的要求。

A lot of things make sense now, especially the concerts not being ready based on what we saw in the movie.
现在很多事情都联系到一起了。尤其是基于我们在电影中看到的镜头,这场演唱会并未准备好。

No way in two weeks they were going to be ready.
在两周之内准备好更是不可能的事情。

Also, he said, don't forget that a lot of days would have been lost during the move to London and setting up the stage there and get adjusted to the arena.
同时他也说,别忘记搬去伦敦、布置好舞台以及熟悉场地也需要很多天。


This is very sad, especially to think that Michael was somehow made feel responsible for this.

这很令人悲伤,尤其是想到这些人莫名其妙的让迈克觉得是他造成了这种状况。
smile, when you heart is aching~ Light up your face with gladness. Love the world;love our children
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发表于 2009-10-31 20:09:41 | 显示全部楼层
加油啊 想看翻译 谢谢。。。。
总有一天 我们会再见!
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加油啊亲,我们等着呢
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"you have to undrstand that here you do not have an option, you have to wear them, this is going to be a closed arena, not an open stadium, and the sound is different." He said his tone was very nasty and everyone was shocked, especially since Michael looked very upset, but mostly hurt, by it.

或许这就是当时真实发生过的,只是我们不知道
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发表于 2009-10-31 20:11:54 | 显示全部楼层
- Michael has always been a very sweet, humble person, since the first time they met 20 years ago, however he noticed that during these rehearsals, he looked even more humble than usual, to the point that he actually felt Michael was incredibly insecure this time around, he saw him very vulnerable and everyone automatically tried to make him feel ok, everyone wanted to bring the spark in him that old Michael Jackson had. According to this person a combination of the 2005 trial and the long absence from the spotlight made Michael feel very insecure.
MJ总是那样的可爱和谦逊,自20年前他们相识之日起就是如此。然而他也注意到,在彩排期间,MJ显得比平时更加谦逊,他感觉MJ处在难以置信的危险境地。他感觉Mj非常地脆弱,每个人都自然而然的试着让他觉得舒坦些,每个人都想让MJ充满朝气。因为自05年的世纪大审判后,公众的过多注意力让MJ感到十分不安。


-Michael did not get along at all with Randy Phillips. Everyone knew it, even Phillips knew it. Phillips had a very arrogant way of dealing with Michael, he was terrified that Michael would not get ready for the shows and AEG would lose a lot of money. According to this person, Phillips made it clear to several people that these concerts had to happen, no matter what, because he "had to personally convince everyone at AEG that this was a good deal" therefore his job was at risk if anything went wrong. On many occasions Phillips would go to Michael's house with Ortega and Travis Payne whenever Michael would not show up. At times they would come back with him, at times no. The official explanations to the crew was "Michael is not feeling well today," "Michael rehearsed at home" or "Michael is rehearsing with his vocal coach."MJ和Randy Phillips相处的并不是很好。每个人都知道,甚至Randy Phillips自己也知道。Randy Phillips与MJ交涉的方式很傲慢,他担心MJ不能完成演唱会,从而自己会损失一大笔钱。Randy Phillips曾对一些人明确表示,无论发生了什么,这些演唱会都必须进行,因为他已经以个人的名义向AEG内部的人士担保这是一笔好买卖,因此如果事情有变,将会带来很大的风险。许多时候Randy Phillips都会带着Ortega和Travis Payne去MJ的住处,无论MJ有没有收拾好准备好。有时他们能把MJ带来,有时则不行。这时,他们向员工做出的官方解释是MJ几天感觉不太好;MJ今天在家彩排或者是MJ今天和嗓音训练师一起训练。
无知与盲目是勇气的源泉。
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发表于 2009-10-31 20:17:06 | 显示全部楼层
At first the crew believed it, but after a few weeks everyone started realizing something was up because even though Ortega and Payne would say everything was fine, it was obvious that they were very frustrated and nervous, and there were several heated discussions between Ortega, Phillips and Payne, but what exactly was being discussed was not clear since they always made sure they would be far enough for anyone to hear. During these conversations one of them would always be on a cellphone, and then the would pass it aroud to themselves. This person believes they were talking to Michael.
一开始员工相信这些话,几周后,大家就意识到有些事情发生了,因为即便Ortega 和 Payne说事情都很顺利,我们也可以很清楚的看出来谈们很沮丧很紧张。Ortega ,Payne和Randy Phillips之间有一次非常激烈的争论,但具体内容不得而知,因为他们总是躲的远远的。争论中,他们中间总会有一个人拿着手机打电话,然后一个接一个的听电话。知情者说他们肯定在讨论MJ。
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发表于 2009-10-31 20:17:40 | 显示全部楼层
大概看了一下,关于耳麦的问题,还有那些人对迈的态度~~~~~~~~
天哪,这是多大的阴谋?
There is a place in my heart,you make it brighter,michael!
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发表于 2009-10-31 20:18:06 | 显示全部楼层
我就猜到是这样了
也许,上帝是看不下去世间对MJ的不公,就把他接走了……
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发表于 2009-10-31 20:18:39 | 显示全部楼层
害死他的还有美国的垃圾媒体
也许,上帝是看不下去世间对MJ的不公,就把他接走了……
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发表于 2009-10-31 20:18:49 | 显示全部楼层
MJ所遭受的实在无法想象
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发表于 2009-10-31 20:19:03 | 显示全部楼层
先翻译这些,大家先看点,我会接着翻译。不对的地方请大家指出。谢谢。

"在昨天我得到了好机会,我与在this is it里工作的一个人谈了话,这个人在过去和迈一起工作过,我曾在电视上看到他迈的身旁,我也在电影里看到了他,而且他的名字出现在电影的最后了。“
他证明和你们分享他对我所说的话是没什么事的,然而在这种状况下我无法提供他的名字,AEG.SONY只允许对电影,演唱说一些官方的话,正如他告诉我的”喂,我也得付些钱(或者他的意思是别人为他付钱,这一句不太确定),所以我不许按照他们所要求的那么做。
然而,同时他告诉”和粉丝们分享我的话吧,因为了解一些事情是很重要的。“
跟迈在一起超过20多年了,他是非常的崇敬,欣赏迈迈的。

下面就是他告诉我的一些重要信息。
自从20年前第一次遇到迈,迈迈一直都是个很可爱,谦卑的人,但是他注意到在这个彩排期间,迈迈看上去比以往更为的谦卑了,凭借这一点,他确切的感觉到迈对周围有一种令人莫名其妙的不安全感,他觉得迈迈很脆弱,每个人自然而然的都想让他感觉好些,每个人都要给他带来些活力,那种活力是属于曾经的迈迈的,这个人因为05年审讯各种因素的影响,还有长期远离闪光灯,那些使迈感觉没有安全感。

-迈迈根本就没Randy Phillips相处过. 大家都知道这件事,也懂,randy有一种骄横的方法来对付迈迈,他害怕迈会有没准备好演唱会,然后AEG会损失很多钱。按照迈的情况,Phillips让少数人明白这些演唱会死活也要要进行下去,因为他得向AEG的每个人进行人格担保,这才是重要的事儿,如果什么地方出错啦,他的工作就挂啦,   Phillips许多次和 Ortega 、Travis Payne去迈迈的家,甚至是迈迈不想让他们去的时候。有时它们会和迈迈一起回来,有时就不了。  然后对员工官方的解释就是迈迈今天不舒服,或者迈迈在家彩排呢,或者迈和声乐老师排练呢。
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本帖最后由 patrickwayne 于 2009-10-31 21:26 编辑

Michael, and this is shown in the movie, did not want to wear the ear monitors. As this person told me, "look at any footage from Michael in concerts in the past, and you will never find him wearing ear monitors, he did not like them, did not need them." According to him, Ortega got upset at one time at Michael, and in front of everyone told him "you have to undrstand that here you do not have an option, you have to wear them, this is going to be a closed arena, not an open stadium, and the sound is different." He said his tone was very nasty and everyone was shocked, especially since Michael looked very upset, but mostly hurt, by it.
Interestingly, yesterday Karen Faye wrote on her facebook that Michael always complained to her that he did not like ear monitors, and asked her to tell Ortega. According to her, she did and Ortega told her "well, he has to wear them!"MJ在彩排时不愿意戴耳塞,知情者说,注意看MJ曾经的演唱会,他从来不带耳塞,他不喜欢耳塞,也不需要那些东西。Ortega 有一次很不高兴,当着所有人的面说MJ:“你必须了解你现在没得选择,你必须戴上它。这是一场室内演唱会,不是露天的,所以音效会不一样。Ortega 的态度很恶劣,每个人都很震惊,特别是MJ,MJ显得很沮丧,准确的说,很受伤。
This is very interesting. According to this person, there was absolutely no way the concert was going to be ready for opening night on July 13th, and everyone kenw it. He asked me the following "when you saw the movie, you do realize right that they had to show the best scenes, the best performances, right ?" I said "yes, of course" to which he replied "so do you realize that what you have seen, most of it came from June 24th, 23rd and 22nd ? Based on what you saw, did it feel as if everything was going to be ready in 2 weeks ?" He said that Michael did not have his clothes ready, and that there was "pathetic" feeling around from different stylists that were trying to come up with ideas. But nothing was ready, no clothes, not even for the dancers. Michael wanted Michael Bush, but Travis Payne brought in that Zaldy guy, and AEG was behind Zaldy, rather than Michael Bush.
The opening number for the concert was only done on the computer, just like we saw in the movie. It was never rehearsed, and the robot that Michael would have come out from was not ever ready. Also the closing of the show was just a concept.这很有趣。知情者说演唱会绝对不可能在7月13日晚上准时开演。每个人都知道这个事实。知情人反问我:当你看见这部电影的时候您是否发现他们给你看见得都是最好的镜头,最好的表演?"我说是的。知情者又说:"那你有,没有发现大多是镜头都来自6月22,23,24三天?能否觉得好像一切都会在两周内准备好?”他说其实MJ的服装都还没有定下来。周围弥漫着感伤的气氛。不同的时装设计师努力想出创意,但一切都还没准备好,没有衣服,甚至连舞者都没做好准备。MJ想要Michael Bush来做衣服,但Travis Payne找来了Zaldy,AEG也力挺Zaldy,而不是Michael Bush。开幕式的顺序也只是在电脑中的一个意向,就像电影中一样。它从来没有被完整的彩排过。MJ从中跳出来的那个机器人也没有准备好。甚至连闭幕也只是有个概念框架。
He also confirmed that they never had a full rehearsal. In other words, they never practiced the whole concert, it would always be a few songs on several days, but it was never put all together, therefore they were laso very concerned that once everything was gonna put together, it would take much longer that the 2 hours originally planned. This was going to be a huge problem for AEG and the O2 arena, because of an agreement they had with time. Also, Michael did not want to have long shows, for obvious reasons.
Also, they never reharsed with implementing the videos for Smooth, Thriller and Earth as we saw in the movie, those were edited in the movie, but they never rehearsed using them, and it was still unclear how they would be used with the songs, especially Smooth Criminal.知情者证实,他们从未有过完整的彩排。也就是说从未完整的将演唱会走过场。每次总是零零碎碎唱一些歌,但从未将它们串在一起,因此他们同样非常关心一旦所有的事情串在一起,那么肯定会超过计划的2小时表演时间。这对于AEG和O2 arena来说都是个大问题,因为他们就时间问题曾签订了一份协议。同时MJ也不想表演太长时间,这是很明显的。
同时,他们从未完成Smooth Criminal,Thriller,Earth Song的MV,电影中的是剪辑过的,但他们从未在彩排中用过。而且,用不用这些歌还不是很清楚呢,尤其是Smooth Criminal。
For the most part, Michael looked well, however this person did unfortunately confirm to me that there were days that something was "wrong" and everybody knew it. He worked with Michael in the past and Michael never wore sunglasses while rehearsing the dark like that, especially since Michael in the past would always want to see how the lights looked and for that reason did not like using shades. But he said "don't expect them to talk about it on tv of course, same with me, I won't and I can't." He said that at first everybody thought Michael was just eccentric and stuff, especially the dancers, they were just excited to see him, but he said for those who knew him for many years, including him, started realizing alarming signs.
However, he said, this just shows how vulnerable Michael was and he does not like how people associate this behavior with something negative. He said "he went through so much poor thing, I perfectly understand why this was happening." Oh and btw, he said that some of the crew members started checking TMZ with their IPHONES to find out whether or not Michael had seen Dr. Klein during the day. It would usually warn them on what to expect when he showed up.
大多数时间MJ看起来很棒,但不幸的是知情者透露事情早已出了问题,大家都心知肚明。知情者曾经和MJ共事,他说MJ从来不会再昏暗的彩排舞台带上墨镜,尤其是过去MJ总是想看看灯光看上去怎样,所以根本不会戴眼镜。别指望他们会在荧幕上告诉你为什么,我也不想说为什么,也不能说。知情者还说,最初每个人都认为MJ只是古怪罢了,尤其那些舞者,他们只是再看见MJ时十分兴奋。但那些和MJ相处多年的人包括知情者自己,会发现,这是一个信号,警报。
然而,知情者说,这只是说明MJ是相当脆弱的,他不喜欢人们热衷于那些负面的新闻。知情者说,“MJ经历了太多痛苦的事,我完全能够为什么这些事情会发生”,顺便说一下,一些员工在这时开始用他们的IPHONE到TMZ去搜索MJ是否到Dr. Klein 那看病。MJ所表现出来的状态越来越警示他们去关注即将发生的事。
Michael had fun when performing, it appeared as if it was what he needed, however off stage Michael did no look happy, he rarely interacted with the crew, other than Karen Faye and at times with Michael Bush. According to this person, Michael stayed as far as he could from Ortega, Payne and Phillips off stage, because he always felt he was being chased by them to do more, perform more and give more. He said that the crew in general felt Ortega was being too demanding, especially when it was obvious nothing was ready on time. But they mostly felt Ortega was being pressured by Phillips, and that it was Phillips who was just going crazy because was in a position of losing everything with these shows.
MJ在表演的时候很开心,感觉好像他需要这样表演。但是一旦下了舞台,MJ就显得不是很开心,他很少与大家互动,除了Karen Faye,有时还会和Michael Bush聊两句。知情者说,MJ总是尽量远离Ortega和 Phillips ,因为MJ感觉他总是被逼着去做的更多,表演的更多。知情者说大家都认为Ortega要求太苛刻,尤其是在一切都还未准备好的情况下。但是他们也觉得Ortega承受着Phillips那方面的压力。看起来Phillips 快要疯了,因为照目前的状况看,他将失去这一切。
The day after the news came out that some fans claimed Michael told them he did not want to do 50 concerts, everyone was instructed not to talk to anybody from the media, not to let in anyone who was not authorized to attend rehearsals, especially fans. When Michael came in that day, the atmosphere was tense and he did not look happy at all. Before working that day, Phillips and Ortega met with Michael and, interestingly, with his bodyguards. They spoke for about 20 minutes, but once again this person could not hear what was being said. However everyone had the feeling Michael indeed did not want to do 50 shows and believed Michael did talk to those fans.
消息放出之后的一天,歌迷就说MJ曾跟他们说,不想表演590场。那之后,局内人都被告知不允许对任何媒体讨论这件事,不允许任何未授权的人进入彩排场地,尤其是歌迷。那天当MJ到场,每个人都显得很紧张,MJ看起来不是很开心。开工之前,Phillips and Ortega 和MJ会了面,奇怪的是保镖也在场。他们聊了大约20分钟,同样的,知情者没能听到他们说了什么。但每个人都清楚,MJ实际上不想演50场,并且相信MJ的确对歌迷说出了这些想法。
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He also says he personally felt Michael sometimes did not show up because he knew things were moving slowly and sort of felt disappointed.
此人还说他个人感觉迈克有时候不出现是因为他知道演唱会的准备工作进展缓慢,所以觉得有些失望。

He was a perfectionist, and when things were obviosuly not going in the right direction, he would get frustrated and sort of lose interest, instead of becoming upset at someone.
他是一个完美主义者。当事情很明显的没有走向正确的方向的时候,他会变得沮丧而且失去兴趣,而不会因此而讨厌别人。

Yet they made him believe it was him, that things were moving slowly because of him.
是的,他们让他觉得造成这一切的原因是他,是他自己使得事情进展缓慢。

But this person told me that Michael had nothing to do with all the technical stuff, like lightings, fireworks etc, therefore it was not his fault, but he was the easy target.
可是这个人告诉我说迈克和那些技术人员,比如灯光、焰火等等完全没有关系。因此这不是他的错,可他却是一个很容易被责怪的对象。
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亲们!加油翻啊!我English不好,这里面的意思我只看懂了20分之1。所以啊,大家快翻!!我等着!
世界上最伟大的东西就是人类的心灵和祈祷。只要你坚持你的信仰,你就会实现你的目标。
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這次彩排背後~ AEG對mj 的態度~從耳塞到 服裝安排~連說話的語調
真是糟糕透了~MJ 所忍受的心酸~
真讓人流淚~
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